High Beam Assistant Retrofit Coding Help?

[lalle]

Hello fellow T6 drivers!

I have try to do HBA retrofit but missing some coding because my car won't do anything automatic to high beams. I have a used mirror with HBA camera and correct wiring for it. I did add FLA ecu to gateway and it shows no faults and status is active but I cannot find anythin else to code, in BCM Byte 22 Bit 5 Assistent Driving Light (ADL) is also active.

Can anyone help?

 

[Loz]

Here is my coding if it helps.

Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 13 15 17 18 19 20 22 25 55 5F 61 0B

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZHH0xxxxx   Mileage: 27360km-17000miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXEB)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 056 KP    HW: 04L 907 445 A
   Component: R4 2.0l BTD   H03 3807 
   Revision: 23101001   
   Coding: 0025401C436601080000
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD03004L906056KP 004003
   ROD: EV_ECM20BTD03004L906056KP.rod
   VCID: 055664AC15A7AFBFF9F-8051

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0BT 300 012 C    HW: 0BH 927 711 G
   Component: DSG DQ500-7A  H11 5302 
   Revision: 00H11V01   
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2F3AE604E79BC5EF633-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 Q    HW: 7E0 907 379 N
   Component: ESC           H06 0133 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 42416000000471
   Coding: 617EC09865678480867D037AA686219279F700
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2_011.rod
   VCID: 40D8B5B84A054A978A9-8015

No fault code found.

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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070 
   Serial number: 06091613470335
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA40B407071FC67B85-802B

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 040 S    HW: 7E0 907 040 S
   Component: ClimatronicT5 H04 0510 
   Revision: 00001K04   
   Coding: 0004000103
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
   VCID: 3332EA740BB3E10F07B-8067

   Slave 1:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E7 907 049 C    HW: 7E7 907 049 C
   Component: Heckbedienung  H11 0303
   Serial number: BHB-0010709160015210

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 B    HW: 7E0 937 090
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H81 0744 
   Revision: B9081001    Serial number: 0982 258161861
   Coding: B8AC39B86A61341293284F207E8B9F50C094738960CD79F03204003F0860
   Shop #: WSC 02737 022 12345
   VCID: 2A0CF710DCF9A0C7B4D-807F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 270816 04  42  0106
   Coding: 0228DD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 Q    HW: 7E0 959 801 Q  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU007091662517676
   Coding: 1400B1

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 Q    HW: 7E0 959 802 Q  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 0653
   Serial number: KU0KU030081662435787
   Coding: 0400A1

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7E1 951 172
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A    HW: 7E0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103
   Serial number: 29160001681590116347
   Coding: B4FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 AA    HW: 7N0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0212 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231622400285
   Coding: 30810C
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001012
   ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
   VCID: 71BE207C312F931F357-8025

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7E0 907 572
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0210 
   Serial number: 27081604393274
   Coding: 00005000FE0779
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3634D36018C1F427205-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 H    HW: 7E0 959 655 H
   Component: VW10Airbag01S H08 0018 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003V40015AZ3
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003153
   Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3B22C25423E3294FDFB-806F

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3495ZRB401A579DA9OQ/

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3505ZRB401E579DA99UP

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7E0 920 970 S    HW: 7E0 920 970 S
   Component: KOMBI         H03 1104 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 740F010300
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3A2CC7502CD91047C4D-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364)       Labels:| 7E0-963-27X-18.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 963 273 A    HW: 7E0 963 273 A
   Component: STH-T5GP2     003 0009 
   Coding: 4101
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOST5G2 001013
   ROD: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOST5G2.rod
   VCID: 2B02F214D383B9CF4FB-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 090
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744 
   Revision: B9081001   
   Coding: 042305
   Shop #: WSC 02737 022 12345
   VCID: 68884D18027552D7629-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 F    HW: 7E0 857 511 C
   Component: FLA           H10 0003 
   Revision: AA001001   
   Coding: 040401E200000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316 001004
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU316.rod
   VCID: 2D06FC0CED97B7FF51F-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 L    HW: 0CQ 525 130 A
   Component: Haldex4Motion H53 7620 
   Serial number: HA1-00030.06.16
   Coding: 0505
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 002015
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 54F089E8AE7DC6373E1-8001

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H03 1104 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8C37101CF960C774D-803F

1 Fault Found:
9456128 - Engine Control Module (ECM) not authorized
          B104A 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Mileage: 27364 km
                    Date: 2019.08.02
                    Time: 08:10:03


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Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:. 6R0-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 357 C    HW: 6R0 907 357 B
   Component: AFS-ECU       005 0050 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 0FCE020001000000
   Shop #: WSC 02748 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRCC 002006
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRCC.rod
   VCID: 3A2CC7502CD91047C4D-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5K7 035 200 G    HW: 5K7 035 200 G
   Component: MU-S-D-ER     H31 0351 
   Serial number: VWZAZ2S5244473
   Coding: 06570000FF00000011111101008808001F0100D60020010003
   Shop #: WSC 02737 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
   VCID: 28080D18C27592D7A29-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 090
   Component: Batt.regelung H81 0744 
   Serial number: 0982 258161861
   Coding: 530B1A73
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 00000
   VCID: 68884D18027552D7629-803D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 915 181 K    HW: 7E0 915 181 K
   Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050
   Serial number: 75410903001608200095

No fault code found.

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Address 0B: Sec. Air Heating        Labels: None
   Part No: 7E0 819 006 M
   Component: J604  Standheizung  0401 
   Revision: L100400A    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02739 790 00000
   VCID: 313EE07CFD3FD31F757-513D

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:55, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

 

[mmi]

For a LHD van with factory LED headlights the coding is:

Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 F HW: 7E0 857 511 C
Component: FLA H10 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 040400E200000000000000

 

[lalle]

For a LHD van with factory LED headlights the coding is:

Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844) Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 857 511 F HW: 7E0 857 511 C
Component: FLA H10 0003
Revision: AA001001
Coding: 040400E200000000000000

This is same coding as mine. I think that problem is in BCM coding...

 

[mmi]

Possibly
BCM byte 08: Rain/light sensor installed
BCM byte 13: Light sensor active

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 090     HW: 7E0 937 090
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H80 0736
   Revision: B9080001    Serial number: 0771 316150034
   Coding: 62F8793A0A21209301284F602DEB87F4C0B47389604579603204003F0860
   Shop #: WSC 32611 002 104857
   VCID: 688AB211027AA5A7F3A-803C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 B  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 181115 03  37  0059
   Coding: 0228EE

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 H    HW: 7E0 959 801 H  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8654
   Serial number: KU0KU005111553091947
   Coding: 0400A0

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 H    HW: 7E0 959 802 H  Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8654
   Serial number: KU0KU004111553084929
   Coding: 1400A0

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A    HW: 7E0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103
   Serial number: 29150002250340125463
   Coding: B4FFFF

Does HBA communicate with BCM? Checked that the following are "alive" in module 20:

IDE00075 Vehicle speed 0 km/h
IDE02515 Low beam OFF
IDE04031 Reverse gear OFF
IDE04036 High beam assistant: status active
IDE04037 High beam recommendation OFF
IDE04123 High beam: reason for shut-off 1C​

 

[mmi]

09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent" - Change to PRESENT (Menu control High beam assistant)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Menuesteuerung Fernlichtassistent Werkseinstellung" - Change to PRESENT (Menu control High beam assistant Factory setting)
09: Central Electronics - Adaptations, search for "fernlicht" in the search box - "Fernlichtassistent Reset" - Change to NOT ACTIVE (this will 'remember' your HBA setting on the DIS upon cycling the ignition.. Handy...) (High beam assistant reset)

I'm afraid these are not available/documented in T6 - unfortunately. More modern BCM's can have more than 2000 adaptation channel (e.g MY19 Skoda Octavia) and our T6 has only a few .

However, certainly some hidden potential is in there e.g. ---> Cornering Lights Speed Adjustment

 

[Spookybear]

I'm afraid these are not available/documented in T6 - unfortunately. More modern BCM's can have more than 2000 adaptation channel (e.g MY19 Skoda Octavia) and our T6 has only a few .

Hey @mmi

Mmm, the plot thickens then. After comparing the BCM coding between yours, mine & Loz's there isnt anything in there that attains to be for the HBA, so gotta be hidden within the adaptations. I'm wondering if there is any way to get a full print out of every adaptation channel from VCDS, documented or not?

Obviously peeps have changed the speed at which the HBA activates/deactivates so it must be in there somewhere

 

[mmi]

I'm wondering if there is any way to get a full print out of every adaptation channel from VCDS, documented or not?

Yes, there is. VCDS -> Applications - Controller Channel Maps pulls out all adaptation channels and measurement blocks/values (of any module). For T6 BCM the extraction is in "old format" and seemingly undocumented - similar to "Measurement Blocks" but you'll get the pieces together by comparing them by the documented ones using VCDS.
Below a few documented adaptations for BCM with their actual channel numbers... there are channels up to 99 which respond to requests and can be changed...

Obviosuly peeps have changed the speed at which the HBA activates/deactivates so it must be in there somewhere

Yes, those are documented adaptations in the HBA. And actually if you pull out these adaptation channel using Controller Channel Maps they are in different more modern "well" documented format - and almost 150 of them. So probably useful/necessary for retrofit.

 

[Spookybear]

Hello fellow T6 drivers!

I have try to do HBA retrofit but missing some coding because my car won't do anything automatic to high beams. I have a used mirror with HBA camera and correct wiring for it. I did add FLA ecu to gateway and it shows no faults and status is active but I cannot find anythin else to code, in BCM Byte 22 Bit 5 Assistent Driving Light (ADL) is also active.

Can anyone help?

Hey @lalle Do you get the 'A' next to the light symbol in the cluster?

 

[Loz]

I wonder if it need “basic settings “ or adaption/calibration before it will work?

 

[lalle]

Possibly
BCM byte 08: Rain/light sensor installed
BCM byte 13: Light sensor active

Does HBA communicate with BCM? Checked that the following are "alive" in module 20:

IDE00075 Vehicle speed 0 km/h
IDE02515 Low beam OFF
IDE04031 Reverse gear OFF
IDE04036 High beam assistant: status active
IDE04037 High beam recommendation OFF
IDE04123 High beam: reason for shut-off 1C​

These are correct in my van also.
My CAN wires is directly connected to BCM, just like wiring diagram shows.

Hey @lalle Do you get the 'A' next to the light symbol in the cluster?

No, nothing shows that HBA is working or active. I have seen symbol in extended cluster, does basic cluster even show symbol?

 

[mmi]

I have seen symbol in extended cluster, does basic cluster even show symbol?

Good catch - from the factory the HBA was available only with "non-basic" MFDs (e.g. option ZEN) instrument cluster (separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level). Also was required Auto-lights with coming/leaving home function, including rain sensor, dimming rear view mirror (option codes possibly P4A, P4B or Z4A).

 

[lalle]

Good catch - from the factory the HBA was available only with "non-basic" MFDs (e.g. option ZEN) instrument cluster (separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level). Also was required Auto-lights with coming/leaving home function, including rain sensor, dimming rear view mirror (option codes possibly P4A, P4B or Z4A).

I have all of those, but not the colour cluster.

 

[Spookybear]

I have all of those, but not the colour cluster.

OK, no idea if this will work on your cluster, this is untested as my mirror has not turned up yet but try:

09 BCM
Change the below adaptation channels from 0 to 1
channel 53
channel 54 ** this should already be set @ 1

 

[Skyliner33]

Ok on my van I have auto headlights. What other hardware do I need to get high beam assist to work please?

 

[Spookybear]

Ok on my van I have auto headlights. What other hardware do I need to get high beam assist to work please?

As @mmi said above, "from the factory the HBA was available only with "non-basic" MFDs (e.g. option ZEN) instrument cluster (separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level). Also was required Auto-lights with coming/leaving home function, including rain sensor, dimming rear view mirror (option codes possibly P4A, P4B or Z4A)"

Not sure yet till @lalle posts to whether or not HBA will work without the highline style cluster "non-basic MFDs (e.g. option ZEN) instrument cluster (separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level)", again what Mmi said.

My mirror hasnt arrived yet so cant verify everything is going to go as well as I'm hoping but watch this space

 

[Skyliner33]

As @mmi said above, "from the factory the HBA was available only with "non-basic" MFDs (e.g. option ZEN) instrument cluster (separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level). Also was required Auto-lights with coming/leaving home function, including rain sensor, dimming rear view mirror (option codes possibly P4A, P4B or Z4A)"

Not sure yet till @lalle posts to whether or not HBA will work without the highline style cluster "non-basic MFDs (e.g. option ZEN) instrument cluster (separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level)", again what Mmi said.

My mirror hasnt arrived yet so cant verify everything is going to go as well as I'm hoping but watch this space

Thanks, my van is a Highline, does this mean it has the non-basic cluster? I do have Auto-lights rain sensor and auto-dimming mirror.

 

[Spookybear]

Thanks, my van is a Highline, does this mean it has the non-basic cluster? I do have Auto-lights rain sensor and auto-dimming mirror.

Does it have "separate round dials for coolant temp and fuel level" as per Mmi's post?

 

[mmi]

The basic one ---> Limited Mfd Configuration

 

[lalle]

The basic one ---> Limited Mfd Configuration

There are 3 different cluster then, basic, round dials version and colour version. I have the middle one.