OEM Webasto Auxiliary Heater To Parking Heater Upgrade
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Everything is possible mate but I didn't explore it any further so can't advise.
Telestart approach was simple and inexpensive, at least in my case.
Not just warm - also a bit cooled vehicle, tooMy good wifewill be (should be
) quite pleased with my efforts when she'll get into warm vehicle tomorrow morning.
My final coding (with 1 fault caused by missing overhead timer) is 5101.
Important settings to notice are as follows.
Byte 0 bit 0 activated - prevents flattening the battery
Byte 0 bit 2 deactivated - allows to heat engine and cabin simultaneously
Byte 0 bit 3 deactivated - front fan is controlled via CAN (for Cimatronic unit)
Byte 0 bit 4 activated & bit 5 deactivated - enables remote control via Telestart
Important settings to notice are as follows.
Byte 0 bit 0 activated - prevents flattening the battery
Byte 0 bit 2 deactivated - allows to heat engine and cabin simultaneously
Byte 0 bit 3 deactivated - front fan is controlled via CAN (for Cimatronic unit)
Byte 0 bit 4 activated & bit 5 deactivated - enables remote control via Telestart
Some useful info about remote and its configuration.
And the link to complete manual.
Default heating time is 30 minutes which seems to be the most suitable.
And the link to complete manual.
Default heating time is 30 minutes which seems to be the most suitable.
Hi Robert, first of all many thanks for the great summary you've shared here!
I carefully read all your way towards this result. I have T6 Multivan MY2019 with pre-installed OEM Webasto.
Just ordered three components needed:
- 3Q0 963 513 - Telestart OEM form VAG
- 3G0 963 511 B - Remote to pair with the above
- the loom set with aerial for wiring the Telestart module under the front right seat.
Unfortunately, I don't have VCP, but found some chaps around to help me with re-flashing.
For adaptation Adapter 18, I have Carport that luckily do the change form 4101 to 5001 (or 5101 as in your last post). Just checked it.
The question is about overhead panel.
I don't have one in my T6. Today I checked that under the cover, there is no any wire to plug for the VAG 7E5 919 037 J (the latest panel version), that I can easily get on eBay.
Did you managed to get through this?
As I can see, the fault code you still have is exactly due to the absence of the overhead timer.
The overhead location is quite tight but I feel there should be the way to get the panel connected to the power and CAN-bus without entire roof cover removal.
Thanks for sharing thoughts!
I don't need timer so I purposely didn't install overhead unit. Remote only works 100% for my needs.
Installation of this overhead unit is very simple, just power supply and CAN wiring which can be ran through A pillar and there is no need to remove roof lining at all
See wiring below (4th picture).
Oem Webasto Auxiliary Heater To Parking Heater "retrofit"
All required components are already purchased, tested and ready for the installation. Well invested €58=£49 :thumbsup: My ODIS-E is also ready to upload new(better) firmware ;)
See wiring below (4th picture).
Oem Webasto Auxiliary Heater To Parking Heater "retrofit"
All required components are already purchased, tested and ready for the installation. Well invested €58=£49 :thumbsup: My ODIS-E is also ready to upload new(better) firmware ;)www.t6forum.com
Hi Robert, yes, this is exactly how I plan to do this.
It seems to me that both CAN links can be soldered directly to BCM T73b socket while +12DC and GND can be sourced somewhere nearby. I assumed that blue socket T10af in left A-pillar fuse/socket box doesn't exist in my case. (My T6 is LHD and therefore the BCM is on the left side)
Once panel is installed and properly connected, do I need any specific adaptation for it?
Many thanks again!
I will write the separate post once I'm done with this.
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You just need to add your new unit in CAN Gateway(19) INSTALLATION LIST and then verify its own coding but default coding should work anyway.
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ciprian.elisei
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Hi everyone, does anybody know if for T5.1 is the same wiring procedure? I own a T5.1 2011 without parking heater, only stationary. I intend to install the overhead module and to operate it by there.
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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Can you post your complete VCDS autoscan?
ciprian.elisei
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Yap Robert, it is a Thermo Top C, and Climatic AC, not Climatronic
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 AC HW: 7E5 907 047 AC
Component: Climatic-T5 H11 0203
Revision: 00001005
Coding: 0000000002
Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
VCID: 70EF65C7ABA31ACF55-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
Component: J737__Standheizung 0605
Revision: 00085000 Serial number: 09019275F00000
Coding: 0000031
Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 24475997E7DBF66FE1-8070
No fault code found.
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Thanks for this but can you post your complete VCDS autoscan? I would like to see all components on board of your vehicle.
ciprian.elisei
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Here you go
Code:
Saturday,21,November,2020,15:35:59:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZBH131677 License Plate:
Mileage: 291860km-181353mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 18 19 25 37 56 69 77 0B
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZBH131677 Mileage: 291860km-181353miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Not registered 0001
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFCA) Labels:. 03L-906-022-CFC.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 022 JF HW: 03L 907 309 H
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H35 9108
Revision: 22H35--- Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0119401A233400080000
Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906022JF 002011
ROD: EV_ECM20BTD01103L906022JB.rod
VCID: 72EB6FCFA5AF28DFA3-8026
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 X
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK25AXT.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 G HW: 7E0 907 379 E
Component: ESP MK25A XT H43 0105
Revision: 00H43001
Coding: 208764AD09A7049626A890786A6510
Shop #: WSC 02756 790 49152
VCID: 366393DF814774FF4F-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels:| 7E5-907-047.clb
Part No SW: 7E5 907 047 AC HW: 7E5 907 047 AC
Component: Climatic-T5 H11 0203
Revision: 00001005
Coding: 0000000002
Shop #: WSC 02757 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimaticT5 A01003
ROD: EV_ClimaT5Basis.rod
VCID: 70EF65C7ABA31ACF55-8024
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 F HW: 7H0 937 087
Component: BCM T5GP H+4 H47 0230
Revision: BO047001 Serial number: 0396 104110043
Coding: A0B0793A0E212012002808107C2B8DD50080410F60844000300000000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00001
VCID: 377D9EDB864D8DF754-8062
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 A HW: 7E0 959 801 A Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 003 3311
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 040000
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 A HW: 7E0 959 802 A Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V1.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 003 3311
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 040000
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D HW: 3C8 959 537 D Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-TK6 H06 0022
Serial number: 40000000000000322322
Coding: E20000
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B HW: 7E0 959 655 B
Component: VW10Airbag003 H06 0013
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003HL005615F
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003033
Shop #: WSC 02754 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
VCID: 356194D394417FE746-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 7E0 920 870 C HW: 7E0 920 870 C
Component: KOMBI H20 0220
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 160F00
Shop #: WSC 02756 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
VCID: 295948A348F92B07D2-807C
No fault code found.
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
Component: J737__Standheizung 0605
Revision: 00085000 Serial number: 09019275F00000
Coding: 0000031
Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
VCID: 24475997E7DBF66FE1-8070
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 087
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0230
Coding: 042200
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00001
VCID: 70EF65C7A3A31ACF55-8024
1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 291865 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.04.14
Time: 15:26:38
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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H20 0220
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
VCID: 6ADB77AF8D7FE01F1B-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 7F0 035 680 HW: 7F0 035 680
Component: RNS-MID H42 2726
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7L6082062
Coding: 04000402040000A000
Shop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
VCID: 63C51A8B6255B157D8-8036
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 7F0 035 680 HW: 7F0 035 680
Component: RNS-MID H42 2726
Coding: 04000402040000A000
Shop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
VCID: 63C51A8B6255B157D8-8036
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F HW: 1K0 907 383 F
Component: Anhaenger H09 0100
Revision: 3A001001 Serial number: 00000145412058
Coding: 410D000100000000
Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
VCID: 306FA5C763235ACF15-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
Part No SW: 5N0 035 730 D HW: 5N0 035 730 D
Component: Telefon 009 0511
Revision: -------- Serial number: 35909603139206
Coding: 020101000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 52753 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi A01005
ROD: EV_UHVPremi_A01.rod
VCID: 295948A348F92B07D2-807C
No fault code found.
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Below an extract from a MY13 Transporter, which is similar to yours but with OEM overhead control panel and OEM remote. The part number of Webasto is different than yours, which leads me to believe it wouldn't be straight fit. I don't know if you could reflash yours to be the same.
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No: 7E0 819 008 D
Component: J737__Standheizung 0605
Revision: 00084000 Serial number: 09019169F00000
Coding: 0001322
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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof (J702) Labels:. 7E5-919-037-W2.clb
Part No SW: 7E5 919 037 G HW: 7E5 919 037 G
Component: Dachdisplay H15 0185
Revision: 10100011 Serial number: 259065
Coding: 000203
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However, here is a scan of a MY13 Amarok having the same Webasto as yours and this has an aftermarket control panel (an oval shaped Webasto) and a remote - so obviously doable. Even the "serial number" is the same.
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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None
Part No: 7E0 815 071 B
Component: J737__Standheizung 0605
Revision: 00085000 Serial number: 09019275F00000
Coding: 0030031
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ciprian.elisei
New Member
I am also looking how to wire the overhead control panel. And maybe, after that, i can code with vcds the overhead control panel and the webasto unit with other version of flash. I think, the webasto is fizically the same. Only different software version.
Do you know where it is the overhead control panel wired? CAN i think .....but where exactly can be found?
Thanks
It's the unit J702 in chapter 63 >here<. Just convenience CAN bus and power. Depending on your vehicle the bus can be found e.g. next to the heater, connector T8aj (probably page 89/3 for your van).
Let us know how it goes.
PS.
ciprian.elisei
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I do not know why, i do not have access to the link from your post. I am banned to that site.It's the unit J702 in chapter 63 >here<. Just convenience CAN bus and power. Depending on your vehicle the bus can be found e.g. next to the heater, connector T8aj (probably page 89/3 for your van).
Let us know how it goes.
PS.
To access it you would need to become a VIP member.
ciprian.elisei
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Well, I am not
