[Solved]Horn not working, all other buttons & illumination MSFW working...

AlexJoe

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T6 Pro
Hello,
MSFW -> LIN via T73b /36, all buttons working, but horn plate - no. I checked the horn by VCDS, it works.
Coded:
Address 09 Byte 9 Bit 3 - 1
Address 09 Byte 15 Bit - 1
Address 09 Byte 29 Bit 6 - 1 (Byte 29 value 62)
Address 09 Byte 17 Bit 2 - 1
Address 09 Byte 17 Bit 7 - 1
Address 09 Under Subbus MFL HEX value B4FFFF

I wonder if byte 29 is correct. I checked the horn plate's beam, it's ok.
I have run out of ideas, what else can I check?
Any suggestions are welcome, thank you in advance for your help.
 
This my 09 module code - B1 FC 79 3A 0A F3 34 13 92 28 49 64 2C 2B 8C DD 0D 8C 69 89 60 44 49 60 33 04 00 BF 08 40
6 high only should be 40 - 01000000
You have 01100010, so what is bit 1 and 5 doing?
 
You have 01100010, so what is bit 1 and 5 doing?
I don' t know, I can't find the description for byte 28 and 29 anywhere, I bought a used one and byte 29 was encoded to 60, I didn't change it, because the rest works (I added folding mirrors, I didn't have to code).
Address 5F - I have RNS510 at this address and in adaptations I do not have such functions, but the button control works, long coding for this: 08010400010000AD0014
 
Gutted. I'm fresh out of ideas then.
Hopefully the more knowledgeable members will be along to help soon.
Good luck
 
You don’t say what you have done .. changed wheel or other ... pictures and description of work carried out to help identify possible issues
 
What wheel have you changed too?

Going from old wheel to new wheel . . . . The horn plate gets moved from a direct link via the slip ring to a input on the MFSW lin bus module. Check the loom/wiring first before adaptations...
 
Bit of background here :





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I read this thread, I don't change MFSW, I changed almost everything in electric wiring (I convert my T5 2004 to T6 2019, but I kept the ECU EDC16 and 2.5 AXD TDI engine, some of the engine installations required by the ECU, the rest are from T6). I have all the T6 wiring diagrams (I bought the access and downloaded the whole from the official VW ErWin portal), I can read them with understanding, I know that the horn works in this case via LIN and is powered by BCM. As I wrote earlier, the horn itself works by BCM (I checked it in tests by VCDS (also bought the original interface, by the way, how is it marked in the VCDS user profile?) So I exclude fuses and the power supply of the horn (probably the correct line of reasoning). It seems to me that the problem is some coding since the MFSW buttons work (so communication via LIN works).
 
Can you post your current complete (unedited) VCDS Autoscan?
 
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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.12.0.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4529.4
Data version: 20201124 DS322.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: VOXAR
Workshop Code: 001 00001 000001

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ5X005709 License Plate: PO4S234


Chassis Type: 7H-VN75 (7E0)
Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 37 56 57 5F 61 6C 0B

VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ5X005709 Mileage: 309070km-192047miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 070-906-016-AXD.clb
Part No SW: 070 906 016 HW: 028 101 073 2
Component: R5 2,5L EDC G000SG 5947
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Coding: 0001072
Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
VCID: 4DC76A8491CEAE73C85-5184

2 Faults Found:
16952 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
P0568 - 000 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 276.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.93 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Bin. Bits: 11100000
(no units): 1.0

18097 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1689 - 000 - Implausible Message from Elect. Load Controller
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 276.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.93 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Bin. Bits: 11100000
(no units): 1.0

Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 7H0-907-37x-ASR-F.lbl
Part No: 7H0 907 379 G
Component: ASR FRONT MK25 0103
Coding: 0007206
Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00157
VCID: 392F2E54351622D374D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 040 AG HW: 7E0 907 040 AG
Component: ClimatronicT5 H04 0614
Revision: 00001K04
Coding: 0009058002
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01718
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
VCID: 6889BB1012FC6B5BDB3-803C

Slave 1:

1 Fault Found:
9480753 - Control/Display Unit for Rear Climatronic
B10AA 31 [009] - No Signal
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:42:55


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 937 090 D HW: 7E0 937 090 D
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762
Revision: B9082001 Serial number: 8601 225180503
Coding: A5A430F80A21123200284F342CEB8CD4B0947089604579202304003F0860
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 2C010700C604877BFFB-8078

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 N HW: 7E0 959 801 N Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 004 0654
Serial number: KU0KU023011880232569
Coding: 0400A1

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 R HW: 7E0 959 802 R Labels: 7E0-959-80X-V2.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 005 0653
Serial number: KU0KU011041991011574
Coding: 1400A1

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7E0 959 442 A HW: 7E0 959 442 A Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H02 0103
Serial number: 29160000155850086113
Coding: B0FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 AA HW: 7N0 919 475
Component: PARKHILFE 8K H06 0212
Revision: -------- Serial number: 28231725905073
Coding: 300008
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001012
ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
VCID: 71BFD6742126AA938CD-8024

1 Fault Found:
1080083 - Rear Parking Aid Sensor(s)
B107B 13 [009] - Open Circuit
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:28


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 H HW: 7E0 959 655 H
Component: VW10Airbag01R H08 0018
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003V40045GCW
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003152
Shop #: WSC 02734 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
VCID: 3B23345C33EA10C3661-806E

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 349 RB4000000000005

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 350 RB400000000000/

7 Faults Found:
9443091 - Driver's Side Airbag Crash Sensor
B1017 13 [137] - Open Circuit
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:37

9451027 - Crash sensor side airbag; passenger side
B1036 13 [137] - Open Circuit
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:37

9437210 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag
B1000 1A [137] - Resistance Too Low
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:38

9440083 - Driver's side; side-airbag igniter
B100B 53 [009] - Deactivated
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:35

9439827 - Front Passenger's Side Airbag Igniter
B100A 53 [009] - Deactivated
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:35

9682162 - Multiple collision brake
B13BC F2 [137] - No function
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:49

12656896 - Databus
U1122 00 [009] - Implausible Message
[Bremse8 Time Out Error]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 309075 km
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:32:35


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 7E0 920 870 G HW: 7E0 920 870 G
Component: KOMBI H06 0605
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 160F00
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
VCID: 2D070A04FD9E8E73E85-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 909 901 HW: 7E0 937 090 D
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0762
Revision: B9082001
Coding: 042200
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 6889BB10127C6B5BDB3-803C

1 Fault Found:
03158 - Control Module for Information Electronics 1 (J794)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 309075 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:31:38


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H06 0605
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
VCID: 6A8DC1180CF0594BCD7-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R HW: 1T0 035 680 R
Component: RNS-MID H31 6276
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7T1195825
Coding: 08010400010000AD0014
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 3D273A442D7E1EF3585-8068

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 051 859 AS
Component: EU West V17 8557

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R HW: 1T0 035 680 R
Component: RNS-MID H31 6276
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7T1195825
Coding: 08010400010000AD0014
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 3D273A442D7E1EF3585-8068

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 051 859 AS
Component: EU West V17 8557

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: 7L6-919-148.clb
Part No SW: 7L6 919 148 A HW: 7L6 919 148
Component: R0078 TVhybridDVB 0150
Revision: R0H21000 Serial number: 93900500870301
Coding: 0020801
Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
VCID: 3A2D3158305029CB7D7-806E

1 Fault Found:
03230 - Video Input for Rear Seat Entertainment
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Time Indication: 0


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J0506) Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 R HW: 1T0 035 680 R
Component: RNS-MID H31 6276
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7T1195825
Coding: 08010400010000AD0014
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 3D273A442D7E1EF3585-8068

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 051 859 AS
Component: EU West V17 8557

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 534 HW: 7E0 937 090 D
Component: Batt.regelung H82 0762
Serial number: 8601 225180503
Coding: 02000A76
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 6889BB10127C6B5BDB3-803C

1 Fault Found:
00458 - Control Module for Battery Monitoring (J367)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 309075 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.12.28
Time: 12:34:11


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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 7E0 907 441 HW: 7E0 907 441
Component: J772__Rearview 0040
Revision: 00H13000 Serial number: 525PA8-J440305
Coding: 0020016
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 6597B224E96E7633E05-8030

1 Fault Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 24
Time Indication: 0


End----(Elapsed Time: 01:41, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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