Stance+ Coilover Review

CRS Performance said:
I wanted to continue this thread after having a little more insight into the Stance + and other cheaper options , so yesterday I agreed to fit a set of Stance coil overs to a customers van ( he supplied them ) I wasn't keen to do it but thought that it would help me decide if these things are viable or not .

My findings are as follows and I wont comment on good or bad just yet .

1, In the box they do look good value
2, The C spanner is about as useful as a Chocolate oven glove
3, No instructions but there again not many suppliers give them , hard to know which way up the rear spring and perch go and this one didn't fit . SO -
4 , I had to take a grinder to the rear spring support as the adjuster wouldn't fit , Not a fault of the kit though .
5 , The installation went well no other issues .
6, Ride quality a little choppy and no refined damping here but lets be honest for the price ?? it is ok on reasonable road surfaces
7 I had the vehicle lowered approx. 60 mm so sort of in the middle of the range settings .

Now the troubled items for me .

1 the ANTI roll bar tie rod mounting bracket is lowered about 30 + mm , this has been done to allow for excessive lowering of the spring perch , but I am not sure if this would cause excessive horizontal forces on the A R B instead of normal up and down forces . I have had plenty issues with Race cars having this problem and the drop links and ,mounting brackets were breaking often.
2 The Anti roll bar link bracket isn't welded exactly 90 degrees to the locater plate that slides in to the hub . this means the bracket doesn't sit exactly as it should and could put a pre load force on the Anti roll bar . ( when the front wheels are heading straight ahead .)
3 The diameter of the front Stance Shock is only 50 mm and the standard original T 5 T 6 shock is 60 mm, so there will be a lot less oil inside which may cause premature overheating of the oil . ( shock oil can get as hot as engine oil in extreme cases )
4. The front shocks have a piston rod that is 3mm smaller in diameter than a standard shock . the front shocks take enormous forces on the shaft during heavy cornering and this is probably one safety concern . ( Stance 22 mm standard shock shaft 25 mm )
5 The Rear damper ( shock ) on the Stance kit had a shaft bigger than standard . On a non McPherson strut shock the shaft diameter is normally smaller as the bigger the shaft the more oil the valves have to contend with and more oil moving more heat build up /.


Important to note that one of the strictest Vehicle standards for Cars and car accessories is the German TUV . unfortunately shock absorbers don't need TUV approval according a large shock manufacturer I spoke to ( I haven't verified this unfortunately ) .

So to balance up the comments made earlier in this thread and confirm that you get what you pay for in life.
Don't know how even the Far east can make these things for this money ???
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Steve - We’re they Stance+ Street or the Stance+ Ultra’s that you fitted?
 
No sure? I bought mine off stance EBay account! Had them installed yesterday and the front is noticeably higher, do these need settling time ? If yes how much time/mileage?
 
CRS Performance said:
The box says Stance + SPC 904 ?? , I don't know the difference . Who wholesales these kits in UK . Anyone know ??
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I think the Street are black in colour whilst the Ultra are chrome / silver, if that helps.

I bought mine through Stanced UK but think they must be made for Venom Motorsport, as when I spoke to them about my van being heavy, they sent me out taller replacement rear springs FOC.
 
Ads_Essex said:
I think the Street are black in colour whilst the Ultra are chrome / silver, if that helps.

I bought mine through Stanced UK but think they must be made for Venom Motorsport, as when I spoke to them about my van being heavy, they sent me out taller replacement rear springs FOC.
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The "one spring fits all " has been an issue for me on coil over kits so happy to hear that they recognise this and offer alternatives ?
The ones I fitted were indeed black , I cant find out who manufacturers these parts but its probably not European made . There are 3 distributors in UK and non of them seem to know where they come from ?? , I did ask and Japan , or Korea , were typically the answers I did get . They don't want any more distributors in UK or fitment centres apparently , and non of them have exclusivity .
So what is the difference between street and Ultra ?? any one out there familiar with them . I see the web site where an Ultra Kit is advertised says suitable for 30 to 110 mm drops , is it ultra LOW maybe ? . the Strange thing is that the shaft is almost 60 mm shorter than a standard unit , so set at 30 mm drop these shocks would constantly be topping out ???? They do seem to be assuming a lot of things and it doesn't seem that they are very technical to make such statements .
 
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VwClarky said:
No sure? I bought mine off stance EBay account! Had them installed yesterday and the front is noticeably higher, do these need settling time ? If yes how much time/mileage?
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No settling time . when springs settle they are actually sagging and that shouldn't happen . It needs to be adjusted and maybe the fitter hasn't played around with them to get the stance right . The actual rake of the car is important and the nose should be 20 to 30 mm lower than the rear , these measurements are not taken on the wheel arches they must be done on the sill line behind the front wheel and compared to in front of the rear wheel . This ensures the steering has the correct feel and the car is safe .
 
(STANCE + Street Coilovers)Literally just had mine tweeked , the mechanic advised not to go too low due to the weight of the camper conversion , to which I was fine with, it seems to handle better and much more solid than the original shocks/springs! I’m really happy with the look, I Don’t want it lower than this as it’s very nice ride and would fear if dropped lower I would severely lose the comfort? We are all different and like different aesthetic’s! So far very happy with the coilovers for the price you can’t go wrong! See how they are in 6 months?

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Buzznitro said:
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Just fitted my Stance + Street coil overs this weekend got to say very hard work but pleased with the end result, however I'm going to lift them this weekend by 20mm all round as I feel that they are a little low for a 51 year old :)
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Agree it is a little low, but some people love love the look, I’m not a fan of wheels disappearing in arches! Perhaps it’s my age!!
 
Buzznitro said:
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Just fitted my Stance + Street coil overs this weekend got to say very hard work but pleased with the end result, however I'm going to lift them this weekend by 20mm all round as I feel that they are a little low for a 51 year old :)
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That seems very low you sure they're not the ultra low??
 
Mine standard springs T28
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Sorry this was taken very early in the morning.


Mine lowered on Stance 40mm at the back, and leveled at the front.

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#MatT6 these are the Stance+ not ultra low, the ultra low come in chrome mine are black, it may be down to my camper conversion with extra weight added why the look so low.
 
Another vote here for Stance+.. amazing for the price :cool: feels better than a set of AP's that I had on my Golf.
 
Buzznitro said:
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Just fitted my Stance + Street coil overs this weekend got to say very hard work but pleased with the end result, however I'm going to lift them this weekend by 20mm all round as I feel that they are a little low for a 51 year old :)
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Absolutely stunning! What's the spec on those wheels please? Are the coilovers all the way down in these pics?
 
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