Reading your post can you please provide some V5 class clarification.

Mine is classed as a Van, so 60Mph is the speed limit I can legally go to on a MWay.
If your classed as a camper, you can go 70mph.

is this right
No
Your van on a motorway can travel at the national speed limit.
This max limit for your vehicle is 70mph, unless indicated otherwise by overhead gantry / roadworks etc.
 
As a van
Reading your post can you please provide some V5 class clarification.

Mine is classed as a Van, so 60Mph is the speed limit I can legally go to on a MWay.
If your classed as a camper, you can go 70mph.

is this right
Dual carriageway is 60 MPH and single carriageway 50 MPH under national speed limit. If you want good miles per gallon learn to use very little throttle and make sure it completes regens. I found to took 2-3 tanks before returning good results.
 
As a van


Dual carriageway is 60 MPH and single carriageway 50 MPH under national speed limit. If you want good miles per gallon learn to use very little throttle and make sure it completes regens. I found to took 2-3 tanks before returning good resultles

let the fun begin. am happy going 60 as I get ace MPG and am in no rush.
 
My 2022 T6.1 (150 DSG) camper conversion averages about 28mpg for short trips around town and 35mpg for longer motorway trips. I could, I suppose, limit myself to 65 or 70mph on those longer journeys, that might help a bit.
 
My 2022 T6.1 (150 DSG) camper conversion averages about 28mpg for short trips around town and 35mpg for longer motorway trips. I could, I suppose, limit myself to 65 or 70mph on those longer journeys, that might help a bit.
It would help a lot. I can’t remember the figures as it was over a year ago but I did a ‘hot’ run from Cornwall to Coventry in the camper to get back in time for something - fair to say I wasn’t doing my normal 65mph. The fuel needle was heading south so much quicker than normal.

A steady 65mph seems a good balance.
Smooth driving around towns is a must too - anticipation, observation, a bit of profiling (we all know that Uber in front will keep slamming its brakes on while it works out how to drive)! See so many people race up to red lights just to sit there holding it on the clutch and then speed off. They probably also moan how the mpg manufacturers give is a lie.
 
Reading your post can you please provide some V5 class clarification.

Mine is classed as a Van, so 60Mph is the speed limit I can legally go to on a MWay.
If your classed as a camper, you can go 70mph.

is this right
For vans, the national speed limit sign imposes a limit of 50mph on a single carriageway, 60mph on a dual carriageway and 70mph on motorways.

Camper vans are classed as a car. Edited: If the V5 has been changed to classify it as such.

 
For vans, the national speed limit sign imposes a limit of 50mph on a single carriageway, 60mph on a dual carriageway and 70mph on motorways.

Camper vans are classed as a car.

That's what I thought, but had to check.

 
That's what I thought, but had to check.

I edited the original to show that a Campervan has to have had the V5 classification changed to Motor caravan LGV. Mine has but it’s almost impossible today to get this done.
 
Edited: If the V5 has been changed to classify it as such.
No, the Body Type showing as 'motor caravan' (the DVLA's term for a campervan) on the V5C does not determine speed limits. Provided your vehicle meets the government’s definition of a motor caravan (shown here), then the Body Type shown on the V5C is irrelevant.
 
No, the Body Type showing as 'motor caravan' (the DVLA's term for a campervan) on the V5C does not determine speed limits. Provided your vehicle meets the government’s definition of a motor caravan (shown here), then the Body Type shown on the V5C is irrelevant.
I submitted a load of photos of internals etc, reg and other stuff to meet the criteria you point to. They accepted that: THEN and only then, did they changed my V5 to Motor Caravan and not before. Prior to that is was a Panel van. They will NOT class it as a Motor caravan, on the V5, without that happening. If you have Motor caravan on your V5 and haven’t provided that info then someone has cocked up.

the speed limit is then determined by weight, Under 3.05 tonnes its the higher limit. Over it is the lower limit.
 
I submitted a load of photos of internals etc, reg and other stuff to meet the criteria you point to. They accepted that: THEN and only then, did they changed my V5 to Motor Caravan and not before. Prior to that is was a Panel van. They will NOT class it as a Motor caravan, on the V5, without that happening. If you have Motor caravan on your V5 and haven’t provided that info then someone has cocked up.
Correct, but the government's (the DfT's) criteria for a campervan is not the same as the DVLA's criteria for a Body Type of 'motor caravan', and it is the DfT's definition that speed limits are based upon.
 
the speed limit is then determined by weight, Under 3.05 tonnes its the higher limit. Over it is the lower limit.
Not if the vehicle meets the DfT's definition of a campervan.
 
Correct, but the government's (the DfT's) criteria for a campervan is not the same as the DVLA's criteria for a Body Type of 'motor caravan', and it is the DfT's definition that speed limits are based upon.
Eh! The DVLA is part of the DfT. It is the Government that lays out the criteria and that is on the gov.uk site which is supplied by the DfT of which the DVLA is a constituent part. I’ve seen no evidence that a department have a different interpretation the lawyers would have a field day.

This is the criteria for a motor caravan speed based upon weight.

Screenshot 2023-01-14 at 17.08.10.png
 
I edited the original to show that a Campervan has to have had the V5 classification changed to Motor caravan LGV. Mine has but it’s almost impossible today to get this done.
No it doesn’t. But I’m not opening that can of worms. This has been exhaustively covered & there is a definitive answer on the forum. A quick search will find it.
 
There's lots on the subject on this forum - have a search.
 
@Mick
This may help you understand @Bav 's & @Salty Spuds comments.

In 2019 after conversion, I tried to get my panel van reclassified as a motor home / motor caravan, but it came back as a "panel van with windows" even after submitting a full campervan build report & loads of photos, both internal & external.
I then asked for clarification re speed limits and this was the reply:

Re: "Van with windows" speed limits / clarification
Thank you for your online enquiry made to the Department for Transport regarding the speed limit of your vehicle. It has been passed to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and I have been asked to reply. The national speed limit for different categories of road vehicles depends on how the vehicle is configured for use on the road. That generally means whether the vehicle is designed primarily for the carriage of passengers or goods. The "body type" field on the DVLA vehicle record should not be used to determine a vehicle's speed limit as this is used purely to describe a vehicles external appearance in traffic, to assist the police and other enforcement agencies. A vehicle with "van with side windows" body type does not necessary mean it is restricted to speed limits of a goods vehicle. Provided you are satisfied the vehicle meets the internal requirements to be recognised as a motor caravan and any alterations made to the vehicle do not compromise its safety, then it should be treated as having a speed limit of a motor home or motor caravan in the guidance found here: www.gov.uk/speed-limits


Mr Salty Spuds is correct in saying it's a big can of worms & it's fully understandable why people misunderstand the rules.
 
@Mick
This may help you understand @Bav 's & @Salty Spuds comments.

In 2019 after conversion, I tried to get my panel van reclassified as a motor home / motor caravan, but it came back as a "panel van with windows" even after submitting a full campervan build report & loads of photos, both internal & external.
I then asked for clarification re speed limits and this was the reply:

Re: "Van with windows" speed limits / clarification
Thank you for your online enquiry made to the Department for Transport regarding the speed limit of your vehicle. It has been passed to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and I have been asked to reply. The national speed limit for different categories of road vehicles depends on how the vehicle is configured for use on the road. That generally means whether the vehicle is designed primarily for the carriage of passengers or goods. The "body type" field on the DVLA vehicle record should not be used to determine a vehicle's speed limit as this is used purely to describe a vehicles external appearance in traffic, to assist the police and other enforcement agencies. A vehicle with "van with side windows" body type does not necessary mean it is restricted to speed limits of a goods vehicle. Provided you are satisfied the vehicle meets the internal requirements to be recognised as a motor caravan and any alterations made to the vehicle do not compromise its safety, then it should be treated as having a speed limit of a motor home or motor caravan in the guidance found here: www.gov.uk/speed-limits


Mr Salty Spuds is correct in saying it's a big can of worms & it's fully understandable why people misunderstand the rules.
@Mick further reading here. I’d start at the end & work backwards.
 
@Mick further reading here. I’d start at the end & work backwards.
52 pages & 1032 posts - that's @Mick 's night time reading for the weekend sorted!!! :thumbsup:
 
Back
Top