Winter Tyres?

@Dieseldonkey Cheers! The Devonports will be coming off in spring as I have a bigger set of 'summer' wheels so hopefully should get a few years out of the Nokians given that I only do 10k a year:)
 
I am now riding the Nokian Weatherproof, I find myself very well but I will also buy the Bf Goodrich A / T .., they are also M + S and on the mud / dirt roads are unsurpassed ....
 
I am now riding the Nokian Weatherproof, I find myself very well but I will also buy the Bf Goodrich A / T .., they are also M + S and on the mud / dirt roads are unsurpassed ....
I guess when you pick a tyre it's all about compromise; If you go off road in harsh conditions then I'm sure the BFG KO2 AT will be better in the off road bit and more robust regarding rocks etc; but they will be more noisy/less economical/poorer wet braking/potentially poorer in ice as it's a summer rubber compound and not an all season/winter rubber compound/poorer dry handling&braking. But they look really Good imo :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
I mentioned the BF because in the summer I prefer to take alternative roads, as far as I am allowed by the vehicle, so dirt roads where the normal summer tires are not indicated. As for the noise, now with my age 'I'm fortunately deaf (at least I do not hear the chatter of females) .. and for consumption ... I do not make a problem, are part of the game .. ,, the braking on wet yes, this is a handicap .., but what does Supercar make these tires !! hahaha
 
Really pleased you like them. We have 25k miles on ours Vel now, we are doing many more miles than I thought (it is so nice to drive, we choose to use it over the car for most journeys....:))
I think on current form we will get upto 40k miles out of them if we change at 3mm tread depth
I spent all day ferrying staff around in ours today, it is brilliant in the snow without a doubt, even been pulling cars out. Snow isn't that deep at our house, but within 1 mile ditches have been completely filled with blown snow, running adjacent to roads, and yes there are now cars in the ditches; 12" of snow on many roads with some "A"roads closed.
Got a busy night picking up and dropping off.
I must say yours does look pretty with a layer of snow on it.:thumbsup:

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Hi all. Thanks for the information regarding tyres! I've been devouring ALL information on this forum before (hopefully) receiving my 2016 T32 Highline Kombi 180 DSG tomorrow AM!!!

I have a question regarding the 235/60/17 Nokians I have got on order, on your recommendation @chriscroft and your confirmation @Mojo. You have mentioned previously this tyre adds ~12mm in height, my van is stock in every way, so wonder if I would NEED to lower to fit into multi storey car parks? I have tried to find the dimensions of the van, in an attempt to work it out myself. But alas, I'm useless, and have been rendered MORE confused than before.

If so, it seems Bilsteins may be a good shout to improve the ride/comfort on T32's anyway, so I was thinking B12's as I only need ~30mm drop, as my general driving includes dirt tracks/bad roads. Other lowering methods inferior?!

Sorry, lot's of ill formed questions. Any advice/scoldings most welcome.
 
Really pleased you like them. We have 25k miles on ours Vel now, we are doing many more miles than I thought (it is so nice to drive, we choose to use it over the car for most journeys....:))
I think on current form we will get upto 40k miles out of them if we change at 3mm tread depth
I spent all day ferrying staff around in ours today, it is brilliant in the snow without a doubt, even been pulling cars out. Snow isn't that deep at our house, but within 1 mile ditches have been completely filled with blown snow, running adjacent to roads, and yes there are now cars in the ditches; 12" of snow on many roads with some "A"roads closed.
Got a busy night picking up and dropping off.
I must say yours does look pretty with a layer of snow on it.:thumbsup:

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P.S. What did you do to the Devonports to get them looking like this please? Exactly what I'd like to do to mine!!!
 
I think your van isn about 1990mm high - standard spec; +12mm for larger tyres = 2000mm(ish)
I'm 20mm drop; 30mm would be fine.
The general wisdom of this forum seems to be the Bilstein coil overs, and if you want to control roll in corners add the H&R thicker stiffer anti-roll bar.
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the last image is with a standard van tyre which these second hand Devonports came with.
here is a link to my wheels on this forum
Devonport colour change & Tweaks
Devonport colour change & Tweaks

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I think your van isn about 1990mm high - standard spec; +12mm for larger tyres = 2000mm(ish)
I'm 20mm drop; 30mm would be fine.
The general wisdom of this forum seems to be the Bilstein coil overs, and if you want to control roll in corners add the H&R thicker stiffer anti-roll bar.
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the last image is with a standard van tyre which these second hand Devonports came with.
here is a link to my wheels on this forum
Devonport colour change & Tweaks
Devonport colour change & Tweaks

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Have you had it washed @chriscroft ,it looks shiny
 
I think your van isn about 1990mm high - standard spec; +12mm for larger tyres = 2000mm(ish)
I'm 20mm drop; 30mm would be fine.
The general wisdom of this forum seems to be the Bilstein coil overs, and if you want to control roll in corners add the H&R thicker stiffer anti-roll bar.
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the last image is with a standard van tyre which these second hand Devonports came with.
here is a link to my wheels on this forum
Devonport colour change & Tweaks
Devonport colour change & Tweaks

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Legend. Thanks for this. Looking at putting on the H&R 25mm spacers you mentioned in the spacer thread also. Can't wait!
 
Legend. Thanks for this. Looking at putting on the H&R 25mm spacers you mentioned in the spacer thread also. Can't wait!

Right... I’ve collected the van! Buzzing.

The only thing is, it came with the 215/60/17 Conti Cargo’s... I had assumed it had standard 235/55/60. But it seems from other threads there is no standard!

She looks like she’s been skipping leg day at the gym. Very skinny. Disappointing for a T32. I have some questions if someone would oblige please?

1. I’m now unsure wether it will fit the Nokian 235/60/17’s? Does it need to be wider alloy?

2. How would you get around having a really wide tyre, say 245+ Thinking you could decrease the alloy size (maybe 15 or 16) and go for an oversized/off-road look.

3. How does going for the above effect ride, speedo and fuel consumption?
 
Right... I’ve collected the van! Buzzing.

The only thing is, it came with the 215/60/17 Conti Cargo’s... I had assumed it had standard 235/55/60. But it seems from other threads there is no standard!

She looks like she’s been skipping leg day at the gym. Very skinny. Disappointing for a T32. I have some questions if someone would oblige please?

1. I’m now unsure wether it will fit the Nokian 235/60/17’s? Does it need to be wider alloy?

2. How would you get around having a really wide tyre, say 245+ Thinking you could decrease the alloy size (maybe 15 or 16) and go for an oversized/off-road look.

3. How does going for the above effect ride, speedo and fuel consumption?
1). yep they will fit perfectly, but you really should consider wheel spacers; hubcentric; TUV approved; HR+ are some of the best but there are others; consider 25mm spacers on all 4 wheels, you could go slightly larger on the rear wheels say 35mm each side if you are really going for it.... Carlos Fandango .....
2) I think all T32 have 17" wheels standard, if so 17" is your minimum wheel diameter to fit over your brakes callipers. If you want the off-road look stick with the Devonports and consider 255/55/18 (wheel change) tyres 7.5% increase in gearing, and 25mm increase in radius = 25mm lift. or 235/65/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3(same wheels) which gives you the loading for a T32 (not sure that the 235/60/17 Coopers AT3 have enough loading for you - need to check). 245 width is find with wheel spacers so long as the aspect ratio/wheel diameter is not too oversized
3) Speedo is 4% out with 235/60/17 & 7.5% out with 255/55/18 to 235/65/17's. That means you are actually going faster than the speedo shows. In actual fact the 235/60/17 makes the speedo spot on, because they generally over register.
Fuel consumption wise, in theory y0u just change gear at a slightly different revs to counter the change in gearing, in and my experience oversizing wheels does cost you a mpg or so, but nothing excessive. if you switch to a fairly aggressive tread that might cost you 2mpg on top.
 
1). yep they will fit perfectly, but you really should consider wheel spacers; hubcentric; TUV approved; HR+ are some of the best but there are others; consider 25mm spacers on all 4 wheels, you could go slightly larger on the rear wheels say 35mm each side if you are really going for it.... Carlos Fandango .....
2) I think all T32 have 17" wheels standard, if so 17" is your minimum wheel diameter to fit over your brakes callipers. If you want the off-road look stick with the Devonports and consider 255/55/18 (wheel change) tyres 7.5% increase in gearing, and 25mm increase in radius = 25mm lift. or 235/65/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3(same wheels) which gives you the loading for a T32 (not sure that the 235/60/17 Coopers AT3 have enough loading for you - need to check). 245 width is find with wheel spacers so long as the aspect ratio/wheel diameter is not too oversized
3) Speedo is 4% out with 235/60/17 & 7.5% out with 255/55/18 to 235/65/17's. That means you are actually going faster than the speedo shows. In actual fact the 235/60/17 makes the speedo spot on, because they generally over register.
Fuel consumption wise, in theory y0u just change gear at a slightly different revs to counter the change in gearing, in and my experience oversizing wheels does cost you a mpg or so, but nothing excessive. if you switch to a fairly aggressive tread that might cost you 2mpg on top.

Thanks! Produced again @chriscroft
 
What's first on your shopping list?

Apart from the Nokians and spacers. Looking into lowering options. There’s a place near me that I’m checking out tomorrow for options. Keen on Bilstein B12’s.

Got a seat hanging organiser in order from VanX. The lack of covered storage a downside for me.

Looking at sound deadening, insulation and lining. Think I’ll get someone to do it for me. Viewed a carravelle coversion from New Wave a few weeks ago. Looks excellent.

The LED headlight upgrade from HazzyDays is very tempting. But obviously very expensive... I’m working on justyfing it to myself with re-sale, safety and aesthetics talk.

Would also like to get he Devonports powered coated.

= £££££££

I’m essentially stealing all your ideas! Any more good ones?!
 
All sounds good to me; I think powder coating your wheels against a silver body will be a really nice mod.
Another expensive option, but one which really works for us is the overnight heater combined with a leisure/second battery, a lovely luxury for how we use our van.
 
All sounds good to me; I think powder coating your wheels against a silver body will be a really nice mod.
Another expensive option, but one which really works for us is the overnight heater combined with a leisure/second battery, a lovely luxury for how we use our van.

Hi Chris, quick one, do you foresee any issues with lowering 30mm (got a quote from local dealer to do this and keep warranty) and using the 25mm H&R spacers, on 215/60/17 tyres? I will eventually get the 235 Nokians when I need to replace the current Conti's...
 
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