IHT wasn't introduced until 1986 and its predecessor, CTT, only came into effect in 1975 - so it's not accurate to suggest generations of pre-1983 farmers survived inheritance tax.
Are EVs the way forward?
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@drinfinity You can get a Renault 5 EV right now-ish, as for farm IHT the farm version is a lower percentage than the normal passing your house on to the next generation that applies to Joe Average.
A 5 cylinder 2.5 turbo is better than any EV
Which aspects are better ?
Noise, drama, fun, range (sometimes).
The turbo, as an EV hasn't got even one, while we're at the EV hasn't got a single cylinder either let alone five so how could you put an AK47 remap on it and drive through town permanently in second gear going vroom, brap, brap... rinse and repeat.
Imagine having 400 odd hp and 500 lb/ft of torque from the second you press down on the throttle until you break the 30 mph speed limit 10 metres later, no noise, no fuss and absolutely pointless but clean and relatively quiet.
Imagine having 400 odd hp and 500 lb/ft of torque from the second you press down on the throttle until you break the 30 mph speed limit 10 metres later, no noise, no fuss and absolutely pointless but clean and relatively quiet.
It is on the possible list, but slightly longer than the Hyundai and maybe wider. I have a tight space in the rear yard, so although I always bang on about getting LWB vans, for the EV ideally it needs to be the size of the old Peugeot 107.
I get you. I love driving my van, but when I am driving two miles/10 mins at a time doing multiple kids drop off in 20mph zones an EV really does make much more sense.
Driving SW London to my family in Somerset last Tuesday I can use the EV if I wanted, zero fuss, stop for a coffee at Summer Solstice Park, no problems.. but really enjoyed driving my van.
Last time i went to Retro Resus with my van in Taunton, I took the days off and rode back on a bike and train'ed it from Andover. Two weeks later I did it in reverse. I equally enjoyed myself out in a very different way. Nice to have options in life depending how you feel
I own a 340bhp 2.5 litre 5 cylinder turbo...
And the wife's humble EV runs rings round it by any meaningful measure, as would the three we had prior to this one.
That's not so say I don't enjoy the smell of 98RON and its not still a hoot, but things have moved on.
Netflix is better than the BBC Home Service, chemotherapy is better than leeches, fish and chips is better than gruel. Everything moves on and being in denial doesn't alter that.
Opinions... we all have them
What does the drama element entail ?
The difference is mine isn't based upon prejudice.
Mine is based upon actually having one of each and being able to make a first hand comparison.
How many of each do you have then? I'd be guessing none.
Feels like I've hit a nerve. Like I said, it's an opinion. Settle down.
I've driven a multitude of EV's, Hybrids, Petrol, Diesel and even Fred Flintstone powered cars.
I currently have a petrol powered car and a diesel powered van. Because from my experience, electric vehicles are not for me and hybrids aren't there yet.
I'll be gutted if I am still around when petrol cars are no longer available.
I've driven a multitude of EV's, Hybrids, Petrol, Diesel and even Fred Flintstone powered cars.
I currently have a petrol powered car and a diesel powered van. Because from my experience, electric vehicles are not for me and hybrids aren't there yet.
I'll be gutted if I am still around when petrol cars are no longer available.
We sort of did the EV thing three years ago as an experiment. We sold my wife's Mustang that we hardly used and my boys were struggling to fit in. Plus it was starting to rust all over the place and was less than three years old. It was also worth £10k more than we paid for it. What to replace it with?I get you. I love driving my van, but when I am driving two miles/10 mins at a time doing multiple kids drop off in 20mph zones an EV really does make much more sense.
Driving SW London to my family in Somerset last Tuesday I can use the EV if I wanted, zero fuss, stop for a coffee at Summer Solstice Park, no problems.. but really enjoyed driving my van.
Last time i went to Retro Resus with my van in Taunton, I took the days off and rode back on a bike and train'ed it from Andover. Two weeks later I did it in reverse. I equally enjoyed myself out in a very different way. Nice to have options in life depending how you feel
We went from her dream car and went to super sensible 'lease for four years and walk away' option. Maths stood up and still does. We charge it on ave once a week on our Economy7 tariff overnight, and if my wife goes to the office she expenses the journey and we get a free charge. We do all the sh**y trips in it, unless we we need size or four wheel drive as the van is 4motion.
We tried the cheapest availible lease at the time , but in the end we couldnt quite do that so went a little bit nicer was Polestar, but that failed, so went Marc EQA. No test drive, just watched the video's on YT. Nuts! Its a bit small inside for us but we make do. Next year I think I am going to get a newer VW t6 camper, and then keep it 10 years/until I have to change it. My current old van is amazing mechanical shape now, but its non ULEZ and it feels so wrong to convert/stick a pop-top on a non-ULEZ Caravelle (two out of ffive directions less than a mile you hit ULEZ entry points). Lets see next year. When the lease is up on the EQA we will do the same again I think, maybe a bit bigger
I will never ever buy an EV. It’s not viable at all. Batteries are expensive, charging infrastructure is not maintained or where it should be. Charging times are way too long. The cars themselves are overpriced. They not green at all, for those who actually care about that. Etc etc etc. it’s a hard NO from me.
If your under 30, you might have to buy one eventually.
Your arguments are all the well trodden out ones, all of which have been de-bunked to a greater extent.
Embrace change or continue being a Luddite...
Your arguments are all the well trodden out ones, all of which have been de-bunked to a greater extent.
Embrace change or continue being a Luddite...
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I would have sworn blind that that was a bot reply but remembered we're not on YouTube.
EVs over priced and yet here we are on a forum where we pay luxury car prices for a van.
Hopefully you're not suggesting that the validity of someone's opinion on the appropriateness of EV ownership for themselves is contingent on them having first purchased an EV.
When assessing the efficacy of an ideology that has the ultimate aim of "EV or nothing", it would be absurd to disregard the opinions of those for whom an EV doesn't fit their use case/circumstances, simply on the basis that they've had the temerity not to waste a huge wad of cash on buying an EV in order to prove their point.
I quite like the look of the VW ID2 (if it ever gets into production - late 2025?); it’s got some shape rather than the generic boxy SUV type EV’s being churned out by a lot of the manufacturers, but my existing petrol car will have to die first before I seriously look. Hopefully by then there will be more EVs that just don’t look quite so awful.
There are plenty (if not more) pig ugly ICE vehicles !
