andyrap
T5.1 to T6.1 facelift
Yes the T6 lights have 6 pins (new Bosch style compact connector). The 5.1 lights were 6 pin as well.
Barn-door To Tailgate Conversion
- Thread starter Ads_Essex
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My t5.1 lights were 6 pin but my t6 lights are only 5. Looks like I’ve bought some odd lights. Everyone else lights seem to be 6 pin. Typical for me.
I’ve found a company on eBay who say they can make an adapter to get the rear lights working. It’s £50 or do I cut my losses and look for a set of T6 lights that have a 6 pin connection and sell mine on.
I've also ordered the loom 7E0971145MT from TPS.
Also what’s the easiest route to take the 2 wires to the BCM I thinking as I have half my ceiling down of going up the drivers side and down the A or B pillar.
You can see the before and nearly after pics. I keep saying all this hassle is defo worth it. But I’ve been off the road for a week now. That’s only down to the rear lights not been a straight change. Fortunately I don’t use my van daily and I could have done it quicker. I reckon up to this stage I’m about 11hours in in total. Stricter plate took 2hrs having to remove the towbar and I reckon I spent a hour getting the loom Up the pillar before I decided to cut the barn door lock plug off as that kept sticking half way up. I decided as it wasn’t usable it didn’t matter and the new loom is ready to pickup on Tuesday. The only thing keeping the van off the road is the rear lights.
Does anybody know which T6 lights are defo 6 pin please.
All the lights barring the LED type all seem to be 5 pin fitting. Unless anybody else knows different. The LED type I’ve found are 6 pin but a different type of fitting.
andyrap
T5.1 to T6.1 facelift
I’ve got a set of 6.1 lights and 6 lights here. Both of them are the newer 6 pin connection. 6.1 lights are fitted so I can’t take a pic at the moment, but this is the 6 light. Connectors same on both and need repinning if coming from a pre T6.
Are they the LED lights you have there ? The lights I have are from a 2017 T6 and are non LED. Your plug is different to mine.
Just trying to get to the bottom of what’s plug n play if any. Or the easiest option. The firm I said can make an adapter to go inline have assured me they can do this so this is probably how I’m going to go. To save buying more lights.
Hopefully this helps.
LH light
T6 Pin2 isn't needed, but it you add an extra wire to the right hand light Pin2 you'll get the fog light on both sides.
RH Light
LH light
| Old T5 Pin1 | T5 & T6 Colour = Brown | Earth | New T6 Pin4 |
| Old T5 Pin2 | T5 & T6 Colour = Black/Red | Left Brake Light | New T6 Pin6 |
| Old T5 Pin3 | T5 & T6 Colour = Black/White | Rear Left Turn Signal | New T6 Pin3 |
| Old T5 Pin4 | T5 & T6 Colour = Gray/Black | Left Tail Light | New T6 Pin1 |
| Old T5 Pin5 | T5 & T6 Colour = Green Black | Left Reversing Light | New T6 Pin5 |
RH Light
| Old T5 Pin1 | T5 & T6 Colour = Green Black | Right Reversing Light | New T6 Pin2 |
| Old T5 Pin2 | T5 & T6 Colour = Grey White | Fog Light | New T6 Pin5 |
| Old T5 Pin3 | T5 & T6 Colour = Black Green | Rear Right Turn Signal | New T6 Pin4 |
| Old T5 Pin4 | T5 & T6 Colour = Grey Red | Right Tail Light | New T6 Pin6 |
| Old T5 Pin5 | T5 & T6 Colour = Black Red | Right Brake Light | New T6 Pin1 |
| Old T5 Pin6 | T5 & T6 Colour =Brown | Earth | New T6 Pin3 |
Right here we go. I hope this is of help to anybody doing a T6 tailgate conversion to a T5.1 barn door. I’ve got no warning lights on the dash and all is working fine. I also have saved £50 on 2 adapters to convert from loom to lights. I decided to have ago wiring as littkeblackflash put the diagram up. this is how the wires need to be fit into the light socket
Lefthand light (passenger)
Position
1. Not used
2. Green /black (reverse)
3.Black /Grey. ( Rear light )
4.Brown (Earth)
5.Red/Black (Brake)
6.Blackwhite (Indicator )
In this socket position 2 has a green rubber blank knock that out so you can fit your wire in. New lights only have 5 pins and number 1 lines up with nothing so not used.
Right hand light (drivers)
1. Not used
2. Black/Green (indicator)
3.Black/Red ( Brake light)
4. Brown (Earth)
5. Grey/Red (Rear light)
6.Grey /White
This leaves a Green/Black wire spare which I’ve connected to a reverse parking sensor kit and returned into the van body.
I hope this becomes useful to anybody taking on the same conversion 2011 T5.1 rear barndoor lights to 2017 non LED T6 Tailgate lights.
Picking T6 tailgate loom up tomorrow see how much fun that is.
Glad you got it sorted. The pinning I posted is correct for the series LED tailgate lights which look different to the ones you have.
Good luck with the tailgate loom, that's where the fun starts but with the help from here you'll get it working.
Good luck with the tailgate loom, that's where the fun starts but with the help from here you'll get it working.
Thanks for your help it’s appreciated.
Thanks for bringing this out. Interestingly the pictures are actually still in each post (seen by moderators priviledges) - but not shown.... Let's see what can be done...All this pictures seem to have died for the guide.
Hi I’m about to attempt this conversion soon I’ve bought a tailgate for my ban that’s complete with handle etc, my van is a high line spec panel van 67 plate, could you tell me exactly how to wire it please I don’t want anything g fancy just the handle and lock to work, also I currently have 6.1 rear lights on the van but I will need to re pin them for the tailgate lights do you know how to do this?
No mate it doesn’t.
