Cruise Control Retrofit Euro6

[chang1]

Thank you people does any know the part number i need
As I’ve noticed some have rear wiper some have trip?

I fitted a kit from Ebay seller vwdirect who have the different options.

 

[Daniel2929]

I fitted a kit from Ebay seller vwdirect who have the different options.

Did you have to wire you one?

 

[chang1]

Did you have to wire you one?

Yes, it came with genuine VW loom and instructions. The wire that goes under the battery was awkward. All but 1 wire just push into empty slots in the various connectors. I needed VCP to program the engine module as VCDS didn't work.

 

[Daniel2929]

I don’t suppose you still have the instructions do you?

 

[Deaky]

OEM Cruise Control kit VW Transporter T6 | eBay

 

[chang1]

I don’t suppose you still have the instructions do you?

I should have, I will try to find them.

 

[chang1]

Here is where my kit came from
vwgolfr32.co.uk/shop/CCS-VW-T5-GP-2014.htm

and these are the instructions (for LHD T5 vans) which were original printed from VW
http://vwgolfr32.co.uk/T5-GP-CCS.pdf

The first page is not for my van (2019 T6 EU6 Adblue) but it did come with a page of instructions specific to a T6 (that I can not find yet) showing what I needed to do - basically get a different supply for the fuse and coding. Check your BCM is compatible. I did the coding with VCP for the engine module and VCDS for the rest - no ODIS required. They can also do the coding if required.
The wire that goes to the Engine module needs extending they say but I just removed some of the tape and as the wire doubled back on itself it was actually just long enough. I routed through a blanking grommet (I think for the bonnet cable on LHD vans) under the glove box and drilled the hole in a different position. When putting the wires into the BCM connector I found it easier to do it from above with the clocks removed.

I have now got a MFSW on order which if it works is a far simpler job as only 2 wires and a new airbag connector are needed. Also it is not much more expensive and far nicer. You need one from a T6 that has the CNL button and not Mode (and probably no ACC button) as there is a chip in the buttons which must be compatible. The chip can be replaced but it is only worth it if you can not get the right buttons. I am taking a bit of a risk as the MFSW on order has flappy paddles (for a DSG) and mine is a manual. I intend to rewire the paddles to the cruise buttons thus making setting, resuming and changing speed less fiddley. I really wanted ACC but that looks too hard at the moment and as it is a leased van that needs to be returned to standard it is not worth it.

 

[dnoermann]

The paddles are no problem. They will not interfear with the Manual Gearbox.
Probably you will need to configure the MFSW to not use the Paddles and not connect them to the MFSW, to avoid Errors.

 

[Pierre29]

Hello. I followed the thread and I still have a problem ... I have a T6 with original CC on the turn signal control. I bought a steering wheel with CC button and not ACC. I also bought the airbag harness and made the connections at terminal 9 and 10 on the T45 connector. I also deleted the wire on track 11 of the T45 so that the horn does not work with the I / O button. I did all the coding as in this thread and all my buttons work except those of the CC. The buttons on the original order no longer work either. Here is the reference of my steering wheel: 7E0 419 091 AB Can you help me ?

 

[chang1]

Thanks, that is what I am hoping.
I will be taking the buttons apart and wiring/soldering the paddles directly to the 2 buttons so they will not be seen and just look like normal CC buttons. At least that is the plan. As the paddles just plug into what look like normal buttons I think it should not be a problem. I see you can add paddles to a DSG without problems so I am assuming the buttons are the same. The paddle connectors have 3 pins on each so I have yet to see what the third pin is for, I am assuming the other 2 are for the switch. Possibly there is a resistor or diode in line with the 3rd pin to tell the van that the MFSW has paddles connected up.

 

[Robert]

Bonjour. J'ai suivi le fil et j'ai toujours un problème ...
J'ai un T6 2019 euro 6 avec CC d'origine sur le contrôle des clignotants. J'ai acheté un volant avec bouton CC et non ACC. J'ai également acheté le faisceau d'airbag et effectué les connexions aux bornes 9 et 10 sur le connecteur T45.
J'ai également supprimé le fil sur la piste 11 du T45 afin que le klaxon ne fonctionne pas avec le bouton I / O.
J'ai fait tout le codage comme dans ce fil et tous mes boutons fonctionnaient sauf ceux du CC. Les boutons de la commande d'origine ne fonctionnent plus non non plus. Voici la référence de mon volant: 7E0 419 091 AB

Pouvez-vous m'aider?

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[Pierre29]

Sorry Robert. I had already translated but I did not copy / paste the correct text

 

[Pauly]

The signal cable from engine ECU connects in a different place depending if cruise controls are on wheel or on stalk so will not work without rewiring and this will remove CC from the stalk

 

[Pierre29]

Thank you for your answer. So I must recover the wire arriving at the original shield and move it suddenly? Can I move this wire to the T10 connector under the battery?

 

[dnoermann]

Pierre, can you make an VCDS Autoscan and post it here please.

 

[Pierre29]

Address 01: Engine (2D2D2-CXHB) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V2.clb
№. Log room: 04L ‪906 056‬ KC Mat: 04L ‪907 445‬
Exhibit: R4 2.0l TDI H02 6165
Review: ‪23002001‬
Coding: ‪00114014432401090000‬
№. Workshop: WSC ‪00012 790 50316‬
ASAM dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056KC 004013
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03004L906056KA.rod
VCID: 78FF5DE7C3D3428FA1-802C
1 Fault code found:
25109 - Data Bus
U1123 00 [035] - default value received
Unconfirmed - Tested since RàZ Memory
Capture:
Status of default: ‪00000001‬
Default priority: 6
Frequency of defect: 3
Mileage: 22302 km
Date: 2007.01.28
Time: 20:56:46
Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Standard charge value: 0.0%
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Temperature of cooling liquid:: 26oC
Intake air temperature: 21oC
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Tension terminal 30: 12.171 V
OBD Dislearning Counter: 40
Acceleration: 0,000 m/s2
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Speed Regulator: Status: Initialization
Status irriversible shutoff condition cruise control and limit-status: 0
Cruise Control: Momentary deactivation: No cut-off
Gas pedal race: gross value: 0.00%
Command for CRUISE control GRA: actuation-triggered by OFF pulses: no
Control for CRUISE control GRA: actuation-Tipp deceleration: no
Control for GRA cruise control: actuating-Tipp acceleration: no
Command for CRUISE control GRA: actuating-define: no
Command for CRUISE control GRA: actuating-recovery: no
Command for cruise control GRA: actuating-main control made plausible: no
Command for GRA cruise control: actuation-Advice acceleration/deceleration: second report: no
Command for CRUISE control GRA: actuating-Control error: no
Control for CRUISE control GRA: actuating-Signal main control hardware: no
Command for CRUISE control GRA: actuation-Control: implausible coding: no
Control for CRUISE control GRA: actuating-touch-operated limiter: no
Command for CRUISE control GRA: main actuating-control off via CAN: no
Control for cruise control GRA: successfully adapted actuating-Variante: no
Address 09: Central Elec. (J519) Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
№. Room: 7E0 ‪937 090‬ D Mat: 7E0 ‪937 090‬ D
Exhibit: BCM PQ25 Max4 H82 0762
Review: B9082001 No. standard: ‪8602 123190274‬
Coding: 7AA0303A0A21203201280F542CEB9E550F84708F60466D60330400220842
№. Workshop: WSC 32297 003 104857
VCID: 2C57B1B74F0B3E2F15-8078
Subsystem 1 - No. Exhibit: 5K7 ‪955 559‬ C Labels: 5K7-‪955-559‬. Clb
Exhibit: RLS ‪060519 05 50 0106‬
Coding: 0228DD
Subsystem 2 - No. Room: 7E0 ‪959 801‬ M Mat: 7E0 ‪959 801‬ M
Exhibit: J386__TSG_FT ‪004 0653‬
№. standard: KU0KU030041991203814
Coding: 0400A0
Subsystem 3 - No. Room: 7E0 ‪959 802‬ M Mat: 7E0 ‪959 802‬ M
Exhibit: J387__TSG_BT ‪004 0653‬
№. standard: KU0KU006051991261413
Coding: 1400A0
Subsystem 4 - No. Piece Log: 7E0 ‪959 442‬ Mat: 7E0 ‪959 442‬ Labels: 3C8-‪959-537‬. Clb
Exhibit: E221__MFL-DC1 H02 0103
№. series: ‪39190000092500019076‬
Coding: B0FFFF
1 Fault code found:
00671 - CRUISE control GRA (E45)
014 - Faulty/defective
Capture:
Status of default: ‪01101110‬
Default priority: 2
Frequency of defect: 2
RAZ counter: 135
Mileage: 22302 km
Time: 0
Date: 2020.01.23

 

[dnoermann]

Like Pauly already said, you need to change the Wiering for CCS Line, like it is shown in VW Shematic.
Than the GRA E45 Error will go away.
If not i will look deaper into your coding.
As always the Coding in BCM could be right, but still not internaly acepted, see here: Transporter 2018 + HEX V2

 

[Pierre29]

Bonjour. Savez-vous quel fil je dois modifier? J'ai regardé les diagrammes et sur le 2 la commande GRA arrive en T94 / 44 et T94 / 45

 

[Pierre29]

J'ai finalement réussi à faire fonctionner le Mfsw. J'ai comparé les 2 diagrammes et j'ai vu une différence au niveau du T41. Avec les boutons sur le contrôle des clignotants, les fils de contrôle GRA sortent à T41 / 26 et T41 / 29. Sur un mfsw l'information passe par le T41 / 11. J'ai coupé les fils 26 et 29 puis je les ai ensemble connecté pour les connecter au T41 / 11. Les touches GRA appliquées.

 

[dnoermann]

The Contentend get's a bit lost when translated from french to german.
So you corrected the wiering error, now CCS is working, congratz.
What is your second question ?