Cruise Control Retrofit Euro6
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That one i had forgotten
Still that is the Basic Speedo with a simple Display, that cant't show the CCS Speed.
Your need to Switch to a better Speedo, 770 ore 880
Hi @Absolut5
I’ve got a T6 Shuttle diesel 150ps 66 plate with a multifunction steering wheel but no cruise control. I would like to get CC fitted, ideally on a used MFSW or on the stalk.
You’re not far from me, I’m up near Hook on the M3.
Is this something you can help with?
Salut ma ligne de départ n'avait pas de feux de brouillard et j'ai réussi à faire fonctionner la croisière standard avec les commandes MFSW. Recherchez la modification du volant en plastique Startline pour plus d'informations car j'ai eu le même défaut de commutateur E45. boutons MFSW sont pas E221 E45.
When the buttons are seen and are connected correctly, your CCS display should show up on the driver display screen
When the buttons are seen and are connected correctly, your CCS display should show up on the driver display screen
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Afternoon All. I've finally got the point of having installed my wheel, with the correct buttons and wired up as per the whole pin 36 on BCM and stalk pin wired into T10 under the battery req.
Deaky was good enough to help me with the coding but we only managed to get the stereo and horn controls working. On Attempting to code the ECU (Byte 5 Bit 5) We got the dreaded "Out of Range" message. Also there was no option in the BCM for selecting CCS in the long code helper - Despite the BCM being the 937 090 version that can apparently 'do everything'.
So I'm at a bit of a loss now, any thoughts & advice on what to try to fix this would be greatly appreciated.
Right now on Carista I'm getting the following faults (following a Fault Reset):
Central Electrics
00671 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
CAN network gateway:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
Deaky took this readout of my coding on Friday:
Friday,28,February,2020,13:24:52:32461
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZGH086192 License Plate:
Mileage: 68850km-42781mi Repair Order:
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Gateway Installation List: 7E0 909 901
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 19,7E0 909 901 ,recoded (Installation List),from,5D0A1C08108000,to,5D0A1C08100000,,
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Address 01,04L 906 056 KM,recoded (Long Coding),from,0019401C431401090000,to,0019401C433401090000,(02737/790/50316),
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Address 09,7E0 937 090 ,recoded (Long Coding),from,A0F4793A0A613413922049642C2B8CD40D006989604449E0320400BF0800,to,A0F4793A0A613413922049642C2B8CD40D006989604449E0320400BF0840,(50376/001/1048576),
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Address 09,7E0 937 090 ,recoded (Long Coding),from,A0F4793A0A613413922049642C2B8CD40D006989604449E0320400BF0840,to,A0F4793A0A613413922849642C2B8CD50D846989604449E0320400BF0840,(50376/001/104857),
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Address 01,04L 906 056 KM,recoded (Long Coding),from,0019401C431401090000,to,0019401C433401090000,(02737/790/50316),
And these pics show the details for my ECU and BCM
Deaky was good enough to help me with the coding but we only managed to get the stereo and horn controls working. On Attempting to code the ECU (Byte 5 Bit 5) We got the dreaded "Out of Range" message. Also there was no option in the BCM for selecting CCS in the long code helper - Despite the BCM being the 937 090 version that can apparently 'do everything'.
So I'm at a bit of a loss now, any thoughts & advice on what to try to fix this would be greatly appreciated.
Right now on Carista I'm getting the following faults (following a Fault Reset):
Central Electrics
00671 - Cruise Control Switch (E45)
CAN network gateway:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
Deaky took this readout of my coding on Friday:
Friday,28,February,2020,13:24:52:32461
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZGH086192 License Plate:
Mileage: 68850km-42781mi Repair Order:
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Gateway Installation List: 7E0 909 901
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 19,7E0 909 901 ,recoded (Installation List),from,5D0A1C08108000,to,5D0A1C08100000,,
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Address 01,04L 906 056 KM,recoded (Long Coding),from,0019401C431401090000,to,0019401C433401090000,(02737/790/50316),
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Address 09,7E0 937 090 ,recoded (Long Coding),from,A0F4793A0A613413922049642C2B8CD40D006989604449E0320400BF0800,to,A0F4793A0A613413922049642C2B8CD40D006989604449E0320400BF0840,(50376/001/1048576),
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Address 09,7E0 937 090 ,recoded (Long Coding),from,A0F4793A0A613413922049642C2B8CD40D006989604449E0320400BF0840,to,A0F4793A0A613413922849642C2B8CD50D846989604449E0320400BF0840,(50376/001/104857),
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Address 01,04L 906 056 KM,recoded (Long Coding),from,0019401C431401090000,to,0019401C433401090000,(02737/790/50316),
And these pics show the details for my ECU and BCM
did you see the conversation response from yesterday?
After retrofitting cruise control, 2016 t6, when using vcds to code the engine module byte 5 , bit 5&6. The error kept coming back as error 31. You can't seperate bit 5 and 6 in vcds
If you use vag com pro, it allows you to enable bit 5 without error, and this now enables the cruise control to work perfectly.
I'm not sure what bit 6 does, maybe someone in the know can say, but mine works without it enabled.
After retrofitting cruise control, 2016 t6, when using vcds to code the engine module byte 5 , bit 5&6. The error kept coming back as error 31. You can't seperate bit 5 and 6 in vcds
If you use vag com pro, it allows you to enable bit 5 without error, and this now enables the cruise control to work perfectly.
I'm not sure what bit 6 does, maybe someone in the know can say, but mine works without it enabled.
Hi James, I did. Was going to get back to you about it. To me it seems to be suggesting that you need to recode bits 5 and 6 directly into the long code and not via the helper. But I'm new to all this and wouldn't know what to change the code to anyway. Do you read it the same way?
Think vcds you can only do 5&6 at same time, whereas VCP allows the change of bit5 only.
I did read something about VCP working when VCDS had not. Maybe that's the crux of the matter.
Hi, I had the same when doing mine a few weeks ago, can’t remember but think I just changed the bit manually, I think I posted that VCDS Hex Net I have came up with the out of range. Think I added 20 and it worked as it was originally 04 and now 24
Then to turn on the Lin bus on pin 36, you need to make sure the bit in byte 29 is turned on, which thinking about it, it must be on yours as my radio controls did not work initially when connected to pin 36 as I was using ODIS and hadn’t turned the right bit on. All working now though.
Incidentally I got the same fault code in 01 as you E45, but the MFSW switch is E225 or something similar. E45 is when it has stalk ccs fitted.
Then to turn on the Lin bus on pin 36, you need to make sure the bit in byte 29 is turned on, which thinking about it, it must be on yours as my radio controls did not work initially when connected to pin 36 as I was using ODIS and hadn’t turned the right bit on. All working now though.
Incidentally I got the same fault code in 01 as you E45, but the MFSW switch is E225 or something similar. E45 is when it has stalk ccs fitted.
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This reply disappeared after I had posted - maybe got moved.
bullracing replied to a thread you are watching at VW T6 Forum - The Dedicated VW Transporter T6 Forum.
T6 Cruise Control Retro Fit
Going to just jump in here.
So to add cruise on the stalk you HAVE to add additional wiring. I have added cruise to a few of my other vws over the years and I have never had to add a loom. Totally get things change but can I confirm absolutely 100% every time you need to add the loom?
Plus 100% you need to do this for the mfsw also to add cruise?
There needs to be a set threads for retro fitting mfsw and stalk seperately as I have gone through the search and have simply confused myself with the information dotting from stalk to mfsw back to stalk then to looms etc. Im pretty simple ha ha.
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I have done one for fitting an MFSW to T6 Eu6 diesels.
How To Retrofit Mfsw And Cruise Control To T6 Eu6 2019 Startline - Also Hacking Dsg Paddles For Ccs
If you can get a suitable cheap MFSW, that is the way to go. Only 3 wires and the wheel loom is needed. On the other hand kits are available with stalks and loom so easier to obtain. There is a link to an MFSW kit in my thread
Cable Set Multi Function Steering Wheel Loom Buttons Mfl Vw T6 from Yr 4/2015 | eBay
You will need to add wires whichever way you go. Don't forget either way also will need coding as well which took me a month to do. When researching beware of the differences between Eu5 and Eu6 (adblue) vans.
bullracing replied to a thread you are watching at VW T6 Forum - The Dedicated VW Transporter T6 Forum.
T6 Cruise Control Retro Fit
Going to just jump in here.
So to add cruise on the stalk you HAVE to add additional wiring. I have added cruise to a few of my other vws over the years and I have never had to add a loom. Totally get things change but can I confirm absolutely 100% every time you need to add the loom?
Plus 100% you need to do this for the mfsw also to add cruise?
There needs to be a set threads for retro fitting mfsw and stalk seperately as I have gone through the search and have simply confused myself with the information dotting from stalk to mfsw back to stalk then to looms etc. Im pretty simple ha ha.
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I have done one for fitting an MFSW to T6 Eu6 diesels.
How To Retrofit Mfsw And Cruise Control To T6 Eu6 2019 Startline - Also Hacking Dsg Paddles For Ccs
If you can get a suitable cheap MFSW, that is the way to go. Only 3 wires and the wheel loom is needed. On the other hand kits are available with stalks and loom so easier to obtain. There is a link to an MFSW kit in my thread
Cable Set Multi Function Steering Wheel Loom Buttons Mfl Vw T6 from Yr 4/2015 | eBay
You will need to add wires whichever way you go. Don't forget either way also will need coding as well which took me a month to do. When researching beware of the differences between Eu5 and Eu6 (adblue) vans.
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Thank you Chang1. Yes deleted it as have started a thread about a specific part number/steering wheel.
The problem I have is I think I am thinking about it too much. As others are not completely the same setup, they have dsg or as above need to add paddles or they are using a different wheel with a different airbag, my brain goes into melt down and I think I will run into more problems.
I read one thread which is titled steering wheel. All 24 pages and I was none the wiser. My brain just farted and went huh. Once I thought I had a wheel in mind, then the buttons were wrong then I wondered what I had actually learnt.
This is not the forum, this is simply me being dumb.
The problem I have is I think I am thinking about it too much. As others are not completely the same setup, they have dsg or as above need to add paddles or they are using a different wheel with a different airbag, my brain goes into melt down and I think I will run into more problems.
I read one thread which is titled steering wheel. All 24 pages and I was none the wiser. My brain just farted and went huh. Once I thought I had a wheel in mind, then the buttons were wrong then I wondered what I had actually learnt.
This is not the forum, this is simply me being dumb.
That explains it. DSG paddles don't complicate it at all. If your van has adblue then my thread explains how it's done including what MFSW to get. I got one with paddles (but did not use them for a DSG). An MFSW like mine should be fine and not need anything extra doing to get the paddles working (part number is shown in the photos). If you don't have a DSG then get one like mine with (they will need coding out) or without the paddles. If you have an Eu5 van that will need more reserch -
Is your BCM compatible?
The BCM wiring is different.
May need an emulator.
Stalks maybe easier.
Is your BCM compatible?
The BCM wiring is different.
May need an emulator.
Stalks maybe easier.
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Quick question, what sort of money were they after for that work to be completed?
Also you may or may not be able to clarify but I’m wondering how the cruise system parameters are displayed on a startline instrument cluster? As in would set speed etc be displayed on the very basic DIS? If not would I need a trend/highline cluster upgrade in order to add cruise to my T6 Euro 6...
Any info greatly appreciated!
Hi, my van is a startline but it has the analog fuel and temperature gauges not the LED fuel gauge. With my MFSW retrofit my mileage digital readout changes to the selected speed for the CCS, or three dashes and a symbol for the speedo, I also get a green speedo light on the dash. I retrofitted the last four vans I’ve had but this is the first time I’ve made use of CCS via the steering wheel controls.
On my previous vans with basic type (LED fuel gauge), I just had the green speedo symbol when turning the system on, no selected speed readout.
I still have two old stalks upstairs with looms, they fit a T5 and T5.1 which had different steering angle sensors and required different switches. The T5.1 has a trip switch on the wiper side as you just need to run three wires to the dash to get the trip system working too (scroll forward, back and reset) and recode the dash. Worked a treat. The kits were bought through TPS for LHD as not avail as RHD option following someone burning a van out during a retrofit in the UK. That’s why you can’t buy a RHD kit.
The only difference is the length of the black/yellow to the black T10/1 terminal in the Ebox, you just need to extend the wire, but that’s for the T5 and 5.1 so doesn’t really belong here.
On my previous vans with basic type (LED fuel gauge), I just had the green speedo symbol when turning the system on, no selected speed readout.
I still have two old stalks upstairs with looms, they fit a T5 and T5.1 which had different steering angle sensors and required different switches. The T5.1 has a trip switch on the wiper side as you just need to run three wires to the dash to get the trip system working too (scroll forward, back and reset) and recode the dash. Worked a treat. The kits were bought through TPS for LHD as not avail as RHD option following someone burning a van out during a retrofit in the UK. That’s why you can’t buy a RHD kit.
The only difference is the length of the black/yellow to the black T10/1 terminal in the Ebox, you just need to extend the wire, but that’s for the T5 and 5.1 so doesn’t really belong here.
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