Van Speed Limit?

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A kombi may be dual purpose but it's still a van
I assume that Vw amarok is dual purpose vehicle but isn't a van
 
As mentioned in paragraph (b), (i), kombi seats are not permanent though?
For the purposes of the RTA permanent means fixed properly as factory fitted seats are and requiring a seatbelt vs just putting a deck chair in the back. It doesn't mean the seats have to be welded to the floor.
 
The Amarok is dual purpose by virtue of the "is so constructed or adapted that the driving power of the engine is, or by the appropriate use of the controls of the vehicle can be, transmitted to all the wheels of the vehicle" bit.

motor vehicle
means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads

Whether something is a van or not makes absolutely no difference. If it qualifies as dual purpose then the car speed limits apply. If it doesn't qualify then the lower limits apply. If you add the word "however"... and remember it says "Most" (not all)

Vans, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles
Most vans under 7.5 tonnes laden (loaded) weight, including Ford Transit vans:

  • have a lower speed limit than cars
  • must follow the speed limits for goods vehicles of the same weight
however..

A vehicle qualifying as a ‘car-derived van’ or ‘dual-purpose vehicle’ has the same speed limits as a car.

That's my last take on this one.... I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree, it is after all, for now at least, a free world. I can assure you however that I am not just expressing my opinion here. I have some.... "professional knowledge" of the subject.
 
Picking up on a conversation earlier in this thread; My revised V5C came through earlier this week and, as expected, the D.5: Body Type has been amended from "Van/Side Windows" to "Motor Caravan". However, what I wasn't so sure about was X: Taxation Class, which has been changed from "Light Goods Vehicle" to "Private/Light Goods (PLG)" and J: which previously showed "N1" but is now blank.

Important thing for me was the "Motor Caravan" type classification as that means the higher speed limits now apply but I'm still in the dark about how much road tax I'll end up paying next year!
 
A vehicle qualifying as a ‘car-derived van’ or ‘dual-purpose vehicle’ has the same speed limits as a car.

That's my last take on this one.... I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree, it is after all, for now at least, a free world. I can assure you however that I am not just expressing my opinion here. I have some.... "professional knowledge" of the subject.

I'm not disagreeing with you as such, but would be interesting to know if anyone on here has fallen foul of the 'kombi' speed limits that you say don't apply.
 
I'm not disagreeing with you as such, but would be interesting to know if anyone on here has fallen foul of the 'kombi' speed limits that you say don't apply.

Now that is a completely different matter! They almost certainly have. This very conversation came up last night at work. One of my colleagues was NIP ed in his Kombi for excess speed and had a nightmare sorting it but it was eventually sorted. I'm going to try and get a copy of the letter that did the trick for him and post it here.
 
The Amarok is dual purpose by virtue of the "is so constructed or adapted that the driving power of the engine is, or by the appropriate use of the controls of the vehicle can be, transmitted to all the wheels of the vehicle" bit.

motor vehicle
means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads

Whether something is a van or not makes absolutely no difference. If it qualifies as dual purpose then the car speed limits apply. If it doesn't qualify then the lower limits apply. If you add the word "however"... and remember it says "Most" (not all)

Vans, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles
Most vans under 7.5 tonnes laden (loaded) weight, including Ford Transit vans:

  • have a lower speed limit than cars
  • must follow the speed limits for goods vehicles of the same weight
however..

A vehicle qualifying as a ‘car-derived van’ or ‘dual-purpose vehicle’ has the same speed limits as a car.

That's my last take on this one.... I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree, it is after all, for now at least, a free world. I can assure you however that I am not just expressing my opinion here. I have some.... "professional knowledge" of the subject.

Black rat?
 
Devon and Cornwall.... based in East Cornwall but jobs dictate where I end up!
 
@Thogg with you're "specialist knowledge " would you agree this whole issue is a little too confusing and requires sorting out once and for all?
 
@Thogg with you're "specialist knowledge " would you agree this whole issue is a little too confusing and requires sorting out once and for all?
I would agree absolutely 100% on that. Everything online on the subject is ambiguous and open to different interpretations, a situation that should not be occurring. (in my personal opinion ... my views are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of any organisation I may be associated with!)
 
For the 12 years I've been driving Vels I have always though and lead to believe that I am a CAR re national speed limits. Trying to recall If any of my speeding tickets where on roads with a could catch me out??
 
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