Legal advice needed! Speeding in a converted N1

[Sasquatch]

And that's the dibble making the same mistake.

It's not the vehicle class or classification that counts under Schedule 6 R.T.A, but the vehicle type.

Sorry, preaching to the choir again!

 

[GHind]

That's the one I used... Unsuccessfully made me want to go and look back at reply....I'll post it here if I can... Here it is...View attachment 260011

Yeah I used the letter initially and had the same response but as others have said the police shouldn’t use the taxation class to establish your speed limits.

 

[Grim Reaper]

In Chris Bell’s response in post #80 they make reference to Maximum permissible mass of 3000Kgs but the Road Traffic Act 1986 legislation references the Unladen Weight not exceeding 2040Kg to satisfy the requirements of a Dual Purpose Vehicle. I would challenge their interpretation of the rules and requirements that apply in court.

 

[Rioja John]

I also contacted the ministry of transport on speed limits and this is what I received back.




I also found this.

 

[Grim Reaper]

What's the concensus of opinion on a Kombi being used with the seats removed for carrying bulky items then? Does it revert to the lower speed limits while the seats are out or not? Or does it only matter if you are physically pulled over by a Police officer vs having a picture/video taken by a camera?

 

[Ali-G]

Of course, they could avoid all of this waste of everyone's time and money by simply raising the van speed limit by 10mph.

 

[Bav]

What's the concensus of opinion on a Kombi being used with the seats removed for carrying bulky items then? Does it revert to the lower speed limits while the seats are out or not? Or does it only matter if you are physically pulled over by a Police officer vs having a picture/video taken by a camera?

Without eyewitness testimony, how would anyone ever prove that the seats weren't in position at the time of the alleged offence?

 

[Grim Reaper]

On another note, my V5 shows a Mass In Service of 1960Kg, this presumably is due to the fact that it was originally a T28 panel van, now that's well below the threshold for a Dual Purpose Vehicle even before fuel and driver weights are accounted for, but should this be changed to reflect the added weight of the three seats in the back now it's been converted to a Kombi? (even though I can't see a way of doing this on the V5)?

 

[krisb25]

Was there an outcome to this in the end or still waiting for court?

 

[GHind]

Was there an outcome to this in the end or still waiting for court?

Still waiting mate, I said I’ll take it to court and the last response was everything has been sent to the evidence assessor……whoever that is.

 

[Sasquatch]

They'll have an Evidential Review Officer, likely a retired PC or DC who's too institutionalised to get a job un the real world so came back as a civvy. To be fair they're generally pretty switched on.

The good news Is it's a summary offence (ignoring the technicalities about it not being an offence at all in this case) and every day takes it closer to six months. You're already best part of two months in...