No, the locking does not make any difference.
My guess: it works=runs the heater but doesn't turn on cabin blower, however I think it might trigger a fault code (I think it has been a kind of "verified" somewhere in the Forum).
OEM Webasto Auxiliary Heater To Parking Heater Upgrade
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Nice, a good new at the end
i think the cabin warming could be disable here, setting bit 3 to 0 but... i think the blower will still working...
in this post, @Jey says the engine was getting warm but he does not specify if the cabin did as well with the config he had
[Guide] [T6_modified] T6 Webasto Aux/Parking (water) Heater Configuration with VCDS
@nuttygt4 sounds like you are going off on a bit of a tangent here to the original purpose of the thread ? If i understand it correctly you have the engine heater and want to change it over to be a parking heater and feed the cab, to my knowledge regardless of the overhead unit you need to flash...
same for MrJJ which shows this little resume
okay it is not about bits, it is just numbers. From VCDS forum found out:
00?xxx2: Axiliary Functions
0 = Start-Stop not active/installed
2 = Start-Stop is active/installed
00x?xx2: Remote Control
0 = Remote Control/Telestart not installed
1 = Remote Control/Telestart is installed
00xx?x2: 2/3-valve
0 = ENGINE & CABIN => to be verified
2 = ENGINE => to be verified
3 = CABIN => VERIFIED, FACTORY DEFAULT
00xxx?2: HVAC Type:
0 = Just Heating
2 = A/C with Climatic type controls
3 = A/C with Climatronic type controls
but i think this is from a T5. If the bit 2 and 3 = 2, that would mean bit2=1 and bit3=0 .... wouldnt it?
Thanks @mmi again for your huge support
Cheers
Miguel
With the SW: 7E0 963 272 B you can only set it to preheat 1) cabin only or 2) engine and cabin.
See the diagram in post #1.
[Guide] [T6_modified] T6 Webasto Aux/Parking (water) Heater Configuration with VCDS
From the factory T6 Webasto aux/parking (water) heater comes configured to heat cabin only. Up here in Finland the vans come with overhead control/timer panel to allow the use of timer or remote to switch on engine and cabin preheating before setting off. The heater is configured by dealer to...
The above is for different Webasto 7E0 819 008 D , thus not on T6.
yes.. i was afraid of that...
again, thinking out loud..
do you think if i dont flash the heater with FL_7E0963272B__0009.frf - Parking Heater and keep the original FL_7E0963273A__0009.frf - Engine Heater the remote T91R will work?ç
Do just the same you guys did without flashing and with that having only the engine coolant heater function without cabin heating...
apologize if i am saying dumb things... just want to explore all the options and try to figure out if it is viable before making the investment..
Thanks
Miguel
exactly what i thought, not applicable for our T6
Just in case it may be helpful for somebody, i have found a video in youtube for a Russian who, i think, does a flashin in a heater from a Land Rover.
I think he avoid the use of the dongle with a .exe called "dongle ignored" which i think i will be some kind of crack or keygen when flashing in engineering mode. Also, in the description there are a couple of links with the software and some *.prn files from Thermo top V which seem to be mounted in the Land rovers.
forums does not allow me to attached a .rar with the files. You can find them in the video description
Полный цикл работы вебасто : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OkpR...
Программа WTT: https://yadi.sk/d/T77ctwiN3262PP
Ошибка 22h в программе: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Gka...
Папка с дампами: https://yadi.sk/d/cUrrylOz33geFB
i have thought about doing it but i wouldnt like to break the heater flashing with a firmware i am not 100% sure it will work
I think he avoid the use of the dongle with a .exe called "dongle ignored" which i think i will be some kind of crack or keygen when flashing in engineering mode. Also, in the description there are a couple of links with the software and some *.prn files from Thermo top V which seem to be mounted in the Land rovers.
forums does not allow me to attached a .rar with the files. You can find them in the video description
Полный цикл работы вебасто : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OkpR...
Программа WTT: https://yadi.sk/d/T77ctwiN3262PP
Ошибка 22h в программе: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4Gka...
Папка с дампами: https://yadi.sk/d/cUrrylOz33geFB
i have thought about doing it but i wouldnt like to break the heater flashing with a firmware i am not 100% sure it will work
Sorry @Jey ... no idea... according to @mmi when turning on by the remote, the climatronic control does not do anything (please, correct my if i am wrong), i mean, you can no lower the amount of air or change the temperature... that one of my concerns...
i am trying to find a way to turn the webasto and heat the coolant without turning on the cabin air blower...
Actually that's interesting - I didn't expect that the temperature and airflow were not controllable on Climatronic. On more basic Climatic both the temperature and airflow direction can be changed but not the blower speed.
Could you please post adaptation map from 08-HVAC - curious if the settings are in there. Perhaps another @Miguelpfdez94 from your current software please.
VCDS > Applications > Controller Channel Map
Tick/fill boxes as above and hit Go
When done there will be a file adpmap-xxxxxxx....CSV in folder C:\Ross-Tech\VCDS\Logs\....
My first guess would be to set fresh air blower for "Direct".
Perhaps a more sophisticated way would be to tune the temperature where fresh air blower turns on. However, I don't know what's the maximum it can be set.
| IDE06691-MAS05069-Parking heat control parameters-Temperature threshold for activation of fresh air blower | 45 °C |
Hi @mmi
Please, find attached a full autoscan of my van, adaptation of the module 08 HVAC and 18 Auxiliary heater
yes.. i thought about that option... and what you think unticking directly bit 3? maybe doing that wont make to turn on the webasto itself, what do you think?
i hadn`t thought about that approach, nice one. Would be too much asking if you could try to set a mximum value? i could try as well but i think, since i dont have this feature enabled, it wont me allow to make any change.
much appreciated your help and support @mmi and the rest of you guys
Please, find attached a full autoscan of my van, adaptation of the module 08 HVAC and 18 Auxiliary heater
yes.. i thought about that option... and what you think unticking directly bit 3? maybe doing that wont make to turn on the webasto itself, what do you think?
i hadn`t thought about that approach, nice one. Would be too much asking if you could try to set a mximum value? i could try as well but i think, since i dont have this feature enabled, it wont me allow to make any change.
much appreciated your help and support @mmi and the rest of you guys
I'm fairly sure you can change that. However, the VCDS might still have a little gremlin right in there... I'll verify and let you know in a few days.
VW Transporter T6, Address 18 Aux.Heat --- Adaptation FAIL
Adaptations fail on Module 18, Aux. Heater. (Webasto Thermo Top Evo) As per "screenshots" below. Module accepts security code 20103 (verified that doesn't accept "wrong" code). Tried a few different adaptation channels with same results. Tried adaptation value above and below set value to...
Hmmm... possibly indeed... here... post #67.... quite comprehensive built-in diagnosis
Webasto Auxiliary Heater - customizing
To connect the module you only need one single cable from Webasto to T91 Details: MEGA
Thanks, unfortunately nothing useful in 08-HVAC. But, what has happened to your engine?
I wil give a try tomorrow and let you know. I would really appreciate if you could test it as well to compare results
Mmmm that does not look too good for what i want to achieve.. so getting a error if a set that bit to 1 Direct
Right now i have it unticked 4101 i think was in the long coding module
What a pity.
To be honest, i have a chinese vagcom and some time it loses the connection to the module, a little frustating sometimes
No, the ...273A does not start from remote (although recognises the remote
)First read post #204, and then check #203, then #205-206-207... here:
Webasto Auxiliary Heater - customizing
W-bus telestart talks directly to the heater, Lin-bus telestart talks to the van and heater is the simplest way of putting it.
Oh men, it recognises but does not start the heater, does not make any sense f*** VWNo, the ...273A does not start from remote (although recognises the remote
First read post #204, and then check #203, then #205-206-207... here:
I will take a look,
Thanks pal
Edit: ahhh i saw marko's post haha he couldnt get it started and had to flash again, i read it yesterday
Hi @mmi ,
i was thinking yesterday and well.. somethin came up to my mind.
The thing is, the cabin air blower does not start until the coolant reached 45º
I have been looking at some thermo top evo en ebay and all of them have their own pump, i gues to recirculate the coolant to the circuit and not involver the main coolant pump (cambelt)
So, lets supposed i am willing to "loose" the hability to heat the engine and the cabin with the thermo top just linking the income and the outcome coolant pipe, so the coolant wont be heated any more by the thermo top. I am base in spain so no extreme temperatures around hear
With that approach, when i turn on the thermo top with the remote, as the coolant is gonna never be heater, it wont reach the 45º so the cabin air blower will never be started....?
i would have bit
i guess having this set up will trigger some errors and i would need to configure the module to turn on the webasto (by ECU) the less time the better as it will be heating water and not the coolant..
what do you think guys?
i would haved the bit 2 unticked but.. i guess the coolant wont go through the circuit as the webasto pump push water tank and not the coolant...
am i dreaming too much?
thanks guys
i was thinking yesterday and well.. somethin came up to my mind.
The thing is, the cabin air blower does not start until the coolant reached 45º
| IDE06691-MAS05069-Parking heat control parameters-Temperature threshold for activation of fresh air blower | 45 °C |
I have been looking at some thermo top evo en ebay and all of them have their own pump, i gues to recirculate the coolant to the circuit and not involver the main coolant pump (cambelt)
So, lets supposed i am willing to "loose" the hability to heat the engine and the cabin with the thermo top just linking the income and the outcome coolant pipe, so the coolant wont be heated any more by the thermo top. I am base in spain so no extreme temperatures around hear
With that approach, when i turn on the thermo top with the remote, as the coolant is gonna never be heater, it wont reach the 45º so the cabin air blower will never be started....?
i would have bit
i guess having this set up will trigger some errors and i would need to configure the module to turn on the webasto (by ECU) the less time the better as it will be heating water and not the coolant..
what do you think guys?
i would haved the bit 2 unticked but.. i guess the coolant wont go through the circuit as the webasto pump push water tank and not the coolant...
am i dreaming too much?
thanks guys
My impression is that the mentioned threshold is temperature at heaters outlet.
The above is based on that the blower definitely starts well before the engine coolant sensor has reached +45 C - usually more like +20...25C.
Well... it does not really matters as despite the webasto being running ( it will be disengaged from the coolant circuit) the coolant will be at the same termperature, so, if the engine is cold, the coolant is cold and it will remain that so theoretically the blower shouldnt turn on
In the case i would like to turn on the webasto and the coolant is hot( after a drive) in that case the blower will turn on... wont it?
What do you think?
Well, a challenge might be that the Webasto does not even turn on if coolant is too warm...
