Orion 12/12/18 keeps switching off

Actual as designed grounding point is under that bonded wood piece I think

Finally found a picture of factory ground point - surprisingly hard to find! (credit @Jet Grommet / Bung underneath front Seat)

It's a white dome nut in the center line of the seat. As you see from the picture it's much closer to the front seat bolts than the rear ones. Little bit hard to tell from your picture where that is exactly but looks to me like perhaps the ground point is not under the bonded wood?


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Good, that correct. Ignore me. Was just going by your drawing.
My bad. Yes to confirm shunt to LB -ve post and shunt to -ve busbar, which then with all other negatives connects to the seat post (which may be a priblem
 
Finally found a picture of factory ground point - surprisingly hard to find! (credit @Jet Grommet / Bung underneath front Seat)

It's a white dome nut in the center line of the seat. As you see from the picture it's much closer to the front seat bolts than the rear ones. Little bit hard to tell from your picture where that is exactly but looks to me like perhaps the ground point is not under the bonded wood?


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I’ll look now
 
Presume converters got rid as ducting for diesel heater in and around there. Only presume wood is stable base for battery before I started this odyssey that has been Lifepo upgrade
 
Can you access the chassis earth point under the passenger seat to take your measurement from?
 
999EC13D-590B-4F25-8FCE-EC42E64BE9C7.pngSo close on numbersbefore dc to dc kicks in, and then the shunt drops slightly (at least predictable now).

May have to abandon for now, two neglected children staring at me out of house window, like a bad Christmas advert 17B3A478-4A1A-4B2F-BAC8-E87C58967CDC.png
 
Here is a distant shot of where the ground point is under the passenger seat (circled in red). It’s the same place under the drivers but mine was removed as that’s where my heater pipes are.

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As a minimum I’d suggest removing the negative from the seat bolt then sanding the paint off that area before refitting to get a metal to metal contact. See if that improves anything. Longer term take the base out and sand the bolt and underside of the base so there is no paint on the base or coating on the bolt.

The crimps on the negatives either side of the shunt look rather flexible. Are the crimps good?

Be careful doing bolts/nuts up too tight or you will damage something. If it’s not working with just a nip then there is an issue.
 
Will do this tomorrow and see what numbers I get. May get a load of wires/ crimps etc and red do some of the ‘strained’ ones over Xmas. Is it a bundle jobbie for the wire etc? Rebuttable source?
 
I’ve given myself a few extra inches on that thick black cable to reduce the mechanical stress at those joints. Do I need to equate to longer red leads too?! Or will that be okay?
 
I’ve given myself a few extra inches on that thick black cable to reduce the mechanical stress at those joints. Do I need to equate to longer red leads too?! Or will that be okay?
I neglected the poor kids more to do this hahha
 
Can you remind me what size wire is the thick stuff?
Not sure. Looks like 16mm2 which would be good. Probably printed on it somewhere. Or the ring terminal will have it stamped on in the format of x-y where x is the cable cross-section and y is the bolt size (e.g. 16-8).
 
Not sure. Looks like 16mm2 which would be good. Probably printed on it somewhere. Or the ring terminal will have it stamped on in the format of x-y where x is the cable cross-section and y is the bolt size (e.g. 16-8).
Yes 16mm2. Will a few inches longer on the black make any difference? I’ve made a new cable up to reduce the mechanical stress you pointed out. Wondering if I need to remake red cables
 
I’ve given myself a few extra inches on that thick black cable to reduce the mechanical stress at those joints. Do I need to equate to longer red leads too?! Or will that be okay?
Absolutely no need to match lengths. The negative uses the vehicle chassis so is essentially a random length but huge cross section. Matching lengths is for connecting 2 batteries in parallel.
 
I posted poor earth in post 17.
Yeah, looks like maybe you and a few others nailed it! Will try and sand back boot and seat base where connects to ‘better’ connection tomorrow. Can’t access original grounding point and not sure I have it in me just yet to remove seat base and treat bolt as @EAN had prior. What’s the downside of not having the perfect grounding point? Kaboom?

Need to run down LB a bit too and when get some sun drive and see what happens with LB and Solar relationship. Cos that is deffo a thing I’ve noticed (MPPT switching to 0 watts when DC to DC kicks in.
 
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