Show Us Your T5.1 Then

Meet Baxter, my 2011 T5.1 Caravelle Exec, complete with underfloor lift and 6 Way Seat.
He’s my pride and joy and has made getting out and about so much easier again.

I’ve always been a petrol head, had nothing but VDubs or BMWs and after I was paralyzed my first car back on the road was a DSG Mk5 golf with hand controls where I did what most folk with spinal cord injury do, that is pull up to the side of the car, transfer in, dismantle my chair & put it on the passenger seat/in the back before driving away like anyone else.

Fast forward 14 years and a big blood clot at the top of my arm later and it just became far far too hard to do that on the regular, which meant I limited my trips based on how many transfers I’d have to do.

Baxter’s lift changed all that and the fact he’s a VDub means it’s an entirely familiar place to be and doesn’t feel “disabled” (I’m sure some folk will know what I mean by that!)

The motability scheme was no help to me at all for getting a WAV (it was a transit tourneo connect or nothing) so finding one I could afford was a mission but eventually this one with only 38k on the clock came along and the rest is history.

If I’d had my choice of colour it’d be Blue, if I’d had my choice of exterior bits and bobs he’d be on air suspension with the baddest body kit and allloys around. But hey given the handcontrols are £700ish priorities change eh.

Thankfully I got lots of good info from other folk with SCI and I’ll make a post about how I retrofitted the 6 Way Seat without having to resort to the expensive and often finnerky electronic handbrake conversion.

Anyways, thanks for the welcome and hello to all.

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Awesome!
My mum has had MS and diabetes for a couple of decades now, and before Christmas she had one leg off.
She can’t transfer, so we’re on the hunt for a suitable WAV, it’s not that easy, we’ve seen the schemes through mobility etc, but I’d like them to own something and it’s theirs and not be tied to a monthly scheme.

Do you have any good sites or know of any good dealers with good stock? It will be my dad driving and mum just a passenger but will need additional seats of me and grandchild as and when.
I’d love them have a T5.1 and my dads always liked the drive of mine.

Great looking van pal
 
Awesome!
My mum has had MS and diabetes for a couple of decades now, and before Christmas she had one leg off.
She can’t transfer, so we’re on the hunt for a suitable WAV, it’s not that easy, we’ve seen the schemes through mobility etc, but I’d like them to own something and it’s theirs and not be tied to a monthly scheme.

Do you have any good sites or know of any good dealers with good stock? It will be my dad driving and mum just a passenger but will need additional seats of me and grandchild as and when.
I’d love them have a T5.1 and my dads always liked the drive of mine.

Great looking van pal
Hi Cossie,

Sorry to hear about your mum, sounds like she’s been through a rough time of it :confused:

So I guess it depends on what you’re looking for really, the market is heavy with Caddys, Berlingos and Doblos where the wheelchair user sits in the back like a taxi.

Then there are the same vehicles with a “sit up front” conversion where your mum could stay in her wheelchair whilst travelling beside your dad as he drives and personally if it were me that’s the option I’d want as it’s much more “normal” than being sat a way back in the third row.

The smaller WAVs compromise in boot space - you basically don’t get any as it’s all lost by accessing the vehicle via the tailgate, apart from the Transit Tourneo Connect and some Doblos that have a nifty wee side ramp conversion.

The same goes for the larger rear ramp access vans like Transporter, Transit & V-Class though, but there’s a bit more wiggle room to store stuff down the sides I suppose.

Obviously I’m biased in that I’m always going to say a Transporter variant with a side cassette lift is the best option out there but I realise not everyone is as devoted to the Bulli as I lol.

The other option is to go for a Turny Evo seat - keep the car your parents have and just have a motor installed that brings the passenger seat out and round for her easy access. There are a good few on eBay just now and any auto electrician will be able to help you sort it’s installation.

As for companies and how to source the car, you’re right, Motability isn’t what the general public thinks it is. It’s certainly not the case that you get “a free car” and the ability to have choice over what you get, for how long and how you use it is seriously compromised. So I agree, if you can go for it independently then that’s sensible.

The conversion companies sometimes have ex-demo or cancelled orders for sale, mine was a Lewis Reed and personally I think they’re one of the better firms out there. (Others are GM Coachworks, Brotherwood, Brook Miller and Allied) many ex-motability vehicles then also make their way to WavMob, eBay and the big auction houses like G3.

An ex-motability WAV or a Conversion company used approved will be in as good a condition as you could want, often with low mileage and FSH, and then it’s just a matter of knowing how to service your lift/ramp going forward.
For example for my T5.1 the side lift is an AMF K90 and it’s serviced by Alfa Tail Lifts who come to the house every six months (can’t really be bad to that!) and although theoretically any insurance company will insure it, there are disability specific insurers out there like Fish who give an agreed value/commitment to replace the adaptations in a loss or damage which is a big deal obviously.

The reason I said earlier that Lewis Reed are one of the better firms imo is because if you look at This T5 conversion by GM Coachworks, the rear seats they’ve put in to fold up so the wheelchair user can get past aren’t exactly Caravelle spec…!

Whereas this much nicer example has all the spec you’d expect of a Caravelle but with a discrete lift and anchoring points so a wheelchair user can travel in their chair once in the vehicle.

So it’s up to you, lots of choice but hopefully you’ll find something without too much trouble :cool:
 
Hi Cossie,

Sorry to hear about your mum, sounds like she’s been through a rough time of it :confused:

So I guess it depends on what you’re looking for really, the market is heavy with Caddys, Berlingos and Doblos where the wheelchair user sits in the back like a taxi.

Then there are the same vehicles with a “sit up front” conversion where your mum could stay in her wheelchair whilst travelling beside your dad as he drives and personally if it were me that’s the option I’d want as it’s much more “normal” than being sat a way back in the third row.

The smaller WAVs compromise in boot space - you basically don’t get any as it’s all lost by accessing the vehicle via the tailgate, apart from the Transit Tourneo Connect and some Doblos that have a nifty wee side ramp conversion.

The same goes for the larger rear ramp access vans like Transporter, Transit & V-Class though, but there’s a bit more wiggle room to store stuff down the sides I suppose.

Obviously I’m biased in that I’m always going to say a Transporter variant with a side cassette lift is the best option out there but I realise not everyone is as devoted to the Bulli as I lol.

The other option is to go for a Turny Evo seat - keep the car your parents have and just have a motor installed that brings the passenger seat out and round for her easy access. There are a good few on eBay just now and any auto electrician will be able to help you sort it’s installation.

As for companies and how to source the car, you’re right, Motability isn’t what the general public thinks it is. It’s certainly not the case that you get “a free car” and the ability to have choice over what you get, for how long and how you use it is seriously compromised. So I agree, if you can go for it independently then that’s sensible.

The conversion companies sometimes have ex-demo or cancelled orders for sale, mine was a Lewis Reed and personally I think they’re one of the better firms out there. (Others are GM Coachworks, Brotherwood, Brook Miller and Allied) many ex-motability vehicles then also make their way to WavMob, eBay and the big auction houses like G3.

An ex-motability WAV or a Conversion company used approved will be in as good a condition as you could want, often with low mileage and FSH, and then it’s just a matter of knowing how to service your lift/ramp going forward.
For example for my T5.1 the side lift is an AMF K90 and it’s serviced by Alfa Tail Lifts who come to the house every six months (can’t really be bad to that!) and although theoretically any insurance company will insure it, there are disability specific insurers out there like Fish who give an agreed value/commitment to replace the adaptations in a loss or damage which is a big deal obviously.

The reason I said earlier that Lewis Reed are one of the better firms imo is because if you look at This T5 conversion by GM Coachworks, the rear seats they’ve put in to fold up so the wheelchair user can get past aren’t exactly Caravelle spec…!

Whereas this much nicer example has all the spec you’d expect of a Caravelle but with a discrete lift and anchoring points so a wheelchair user can travel in their chair once in the vehicle.

So it’s up to you, lots of choice but hopefully you’ll find something without too much trouble :cool:
Thanks for the reply!! Lots to think about, and needs acting on as quick as possible to get my mum back out there! I really like the “sit up next to the driver” option. I will take a look at the sites you’ve mentioned.
Keeping their current car isn’t an option as it’s coming to the end of its life and dad would like a multi use van like vehicle, that he can use for fishing and odd jobs when mum isn’t in.
I’ll also keep an eye on eBay for any useful used parts from anyone breaking WAVS.
Thanks again and enjoy your van
 
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