(Side Assist) / (Blind Spot Detection & Rear Cross Traffic Alert) retrofit

And final thing is coding.

CAN gateway 19 installation list:
add 3C
then enter
Side Assist 3C and apply the following coding:
030311 for vehicles with trailer
030321 for vehicles without trailer

There is also LHD and RHD selection which effectively allows for handy mirror lights functionality swap-over just in case their wiring got mixed up during installation;)

Can you please tell me your Coding for the 5Q0 Sensor :)
 
My current and actually temporary coding for (3C) 5Q0 on my SWB RHD T6 with trailer option is
03032202
Once I complete PDC and rear ABS sensors upgrade it will change to
02032202
:)
 
Thank you Robert!
I get an Error in 3C:

B200500 - Data record invalid
static
Priority: 3
Malfunction frequency counter: 1
Unlearning counter: 153

Can the Problem be that my 5Q0 Master has Sofware 81 and the Slave 80?
 
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I am not a 100% sure, but it sounds more like your auto calibration needs to be completed.
Do your mirror LEDs illuminate when you tick the system in your instrument cluster?
 
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Yes the Leds illuminate.
Do the Calibration start automatically?
LED illumination is a good indication and yes calibration indeed starts automatically.
Also you can check the progress of your dynamic calibration in Advanced Measuring Values.
So my suggestion is, take your vehicle for a good drive(maybe Autobahn ;) ) for let's say 50km and see if your calibration has completed.
Remember every time you change the coding calibration starts again.

There is another useful piece of information.
On higher range of ICs "RTA & BSD" grey out (become unavailable) if there is any serious fault in the system.
But on lower range of ICs "RTA & BSD" both actually disappear from Assistant Menu.
Credit to @mmi for help in working this out.
 
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LED illumination is a good indication and yes calibration indeed starts automatically.
Also you can check the progress of your dynamic calibration in Advanced Measuring Values.
So my suggestion is, take your vehicle for a good drive(maybe Autobahn ;) ) for let's say 50km and see if your calibration has completed.
Remember every time you change the coding calibration starts again.

There is another useful piece of information.
On higher range of ICs "RTA & BSD" grey out (become unavailable) if there is any serious fault in the system.
But on lower range of ICs "RTA & BSD" both actually disappear from Assistant Menu.
Credit to @mmi for working this out.
Yes they disapper at my IC after turn on ignition and first come when i delete the fault code.
After turn off and on ignition again it is gone in IC again...
I will do a test ride and see if callibration will be finished.
Thank you Robert for your Information!
 
5Q0 Master has Sofware 81 and the Slave 80
A bit curious about this. Indeed the both revisions 0080 and 0081 have been on the master software 5Q0907686C. Interestingly I can't find any flashfile for the slave 5Q0907685C alone - are they flashed as a pair? (so all would have been included in master -686 package??)
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When I start the Calibration manual I get a malfunction error...
How do you try to start the calibration - VCDS adaptations? I'm asking as I can't run even output tests on VCDS - either correct procedures are not in place in the VCDS or I have associated wrong label-file for the 3C (a derivative of VW37). However, OBDeleven runs the output tests without errors.

Anyways, I didn't initiate the calibration - it completed itself somewhere in range of 50-80 km's. Here's a screenshot somewhat before that. Van parked, thus blind spot detection passive and steering wheel angle "steep'ish".
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EDIT: My setup at the moment. LWB, LHD, trailer capable.
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A bit curious about this. Indeed the both revisions 0080 and 0081 have been on the master software 5Q0907686C. Interestingly I can't find any flashfile for the slave 5Q0907685C alone - are they flashed as a pair? (so all would have been included in master -686 package??)
...
I don't have flash file/files(yet) so can't confirm for sure but I have parametisation file which is labelled as for master but in fact it is for both(master and slave). I have uploaded it recently just for verification purposes and it floods both units.

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Thanks.
Did testing Today.
So as expected we need to change the Sensor.
When enabling Bidirectional Sensors with Coding last Byte of ABS Coding to 0x50 or 0xF0 i get the Error:
0071 - Rear Left Wheel Speed Sensor
C101C 4A [137] - Incorrect component(s) installed

0087 - Rear Right Wheel Speed Sensor
C101D 4A [137] - Incorrect component(s) installed


And for the Front the Codings 0x05 and 0x0F are working, too with Error:
0039 - Front Left Wheel Speed Sensor
C101A 4A [137] - Incorrect component(s) installed

0055 - Front Right Wheel Speed Sensor
C101B 4A [137] - Incorrect component(s) installed


WHT 003 856 B and
WHT 003 857 B are ordered, tests to be done soon.
I also tried this coding on mine and when I changed ABS Byte 18 to hex 50 without replacing the actual rear sensors I got these two faults (as expected ;)).
Thanks @dnoermann for your fabulous work. I am pretty sure that decoding of MK100 ABS cost you a lot of time and effort, well done :thumbsup:!

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A bit curious about this. Indeed the both revisions 0080 and 0081 have been on the master software 5Q0907686C. Interestingly I can't find any flashfile for the slave 5Q0907685C alone - are they flashed as a pair? (so all would have been included in master -686 package??)
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you flash master , and slave is flash automaticly
so no matter where master / slave came from, you can even buy different HW (A + B , or B + C) and flash them with proper SW + proper dataset
 
I am not a 100% sure, but it sounds more like your auto calibration needs to be completed.

Do the calibration needs to be done in one time or can it be done in parts?
I drove about 20km today and Live Data in Obdeleven said:

3 km Master :eek:
0% Slave
2% Distance of object 4

How do you try to start the calibration - VCDS adaptations? I'm asking as I can't run even output tests on VCDS - either correct procedures are not in place in the VCDS or I have associated wrong label-file for the 3C (a derivative of VW37). However, OBDeleven runs the output tests without errors.

I tried with Odbeleven, the Output test was working well

you flash master , and slave is flash automaticly
so no matter where master / slave came from, you can even buy different HW (A + B , or B + C) and flash them with proper SW + proper dataset

I bought mine on ebay seperate, not as a pair. The Master(Software 81) was brand new and the Slave(Software 80) used.
Do I have to flash something here so that they work as a pair?
 
I bought mine on ebay seperate, not as a pair. The Master(Software 81) was brand new and the Slave(Software 80) used.
Do I have to flash something here so that they work as a pair?

C was never made for PQ - only for MQB
so you must downgrate them to B + proper data set
 
Do the calibration needs to be done in one time or can it be done in parts?
I drove about 20km today and Live Data in Obdeleven said:

3 km Master :eek:
0% Slave
2% Distance of object 4



I tried with Odbeleven, the Output test was working well



I bought mine on ebay seperate, not as a pair. The Master(Software 81) was brand new and the Slave(Software 80) used.
Do I have to flash something here so that they work as a pair?
I did the calibration in parts - I think it was total of 3-4 drives before it was complete 2 x 100%. I saw no change in first 20 km (=all stayed at "0"). I think it is a good sign that you already have some non-zero values. Also the "x km Master" counts up much slower than actuals kms - the same is seen on OEM installed modules (in a Skoda Octavia).

MIne came as a pair (as above both with software -C) both with same software revision 0081 - so can't say anything about the "mismatch 0080/0081".
 
...something is wrong with my system.
Today a 30km drive:

4 km Master
0% Slave
4% Distance of object 4

km Masters starts again at 0, Distance starts at 2%
I now order a Slave with Software 0081...


I don't have flash file/files so can't confirm for sure but I have parametisation file which is labelled as for master but in fact it is for both(master and slave). I have uploaded it recently just for verification purposes and it floods both units.
What are those parametisation Files? Do I have to upload it to my brand new Master first? Is this my mistake?
 
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