If your idle speed is 1000 rpm and start stop doesn't activate that's a pretty good indicator of a regen....
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T6.1 Reduce oil level and Oil dilution
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I think this explains what might be going on here....
That video is certainly worth watching (again). But it's his second video (linked at the end of the first) relating to oil expansion which I think is more relevant, certainly in many cases. The importance of filling the oil to halfway on the crosshatch section of the dipstick. I have had no issues since an oil change and a lower oil level.
Yo instalé un dispositivo que me avisa cuando está regenerando y así no para y darle caña a la furgoneta , el dispositivo se apaga una vez terminada la regeneracion. Desde que lo tengo no me he saltado ninguna regeneracion y aún así me sigue saliendo el fallo, luego miro el nivel de aceite y está correcto.
@totitxu, This is what I was told by my dealership when the overfill warning appeared after a service oil and filter change that did not recalibrate the dash overfill warning.
In order to recalibrate the Overfill Sensor my VW service team were instructed by VW Technical Support to drain the oil completely, turn on the ignition for a half hour, with bonnet open. Refill the sump to a level halfway up the hashed area of the dipstick. It seems to have worked so far.
If you want to be certain that your oil and filter are not contaminated/diluted with diesel fuel, I suggest you change both for new.
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Oh geeze this is nuts. How is this possible? How are VW able to just walk away from this issue. All the years of driving around Europe with not a care in the world, and now we have CAZ and clean zones etc and engines that are eating themselves that you cant even drive safely over a few 100 k's. Is this an issue across all the engines of this age of van?
I am not sure why you are still getting the error.
How did you install a device that warns you of the regeneration?
No estoy seguro de por qué sigues recibiendo el error.
¿Cómo instalaste un dispositivo que te avisa de la regeneración?
min el próximo cambio de aceite que me toca enseguida les diré que prueben con esto.
muchas gracias
@totixu, Best regards and thanks for the information regarding the device you are using.
Anyone interested in making the same purchase could follow this link but it is from Poland, with high postage costs to the UK....
chiptuningmarket.com
UK Seller Link:
creativeobd.co.uk
(Approx £67.80 Total)
It looks on the surface like a decent device that gives the information that really should, in my personal opinion, be included in the vehicles in the first place.
Disclaimer: I may purchase one but will do a bit more research before using it. I am no authority in this field! Make your own choice!
I recall reading somewhere that it is not advisable to leave devices plugged into the OBD port..... that may have related to Carista and the bluetooth function being permanently active. Comments welcome.
Just as a side note.... When I was discussing this with the Master Technician at the dealership i use, he told me that VW are now, after a lot of requests in general, including DPF Regeneration notification in the new Amarok....
Anyone interested in making the same purchase could follow this link but it is from Poland, with high postage costs to the UK....
DPF control – VAG + DIODA - Chiptuningmarket
DPF Control - A device plugged into the OBD socket, which will inform you about the beginning and end of the diesel particulate filter regeneration
chiptuningmarket.com
UK Seller Link:
DPF Control – VAG CR Group + DIODE
M.S.-Group DPF Control Module A device plugged into the vehicle OBD socket that will monitor and inform you about the start and end of the regeneration procedure of the particle filter in your VAG Group car. The device allows you to reduce fuel consumption and extend the life of the DPF due to...
creativeobd.co.uk
It looks on the surface like a decent device that gives the information that really should, in my personal opinion, be included in the vehicles in the first place.
Disclaimer: I may purchase one but will do a bit more research before using it. I am no authority in this field! Make your own choice!
I recall reading somewhere that it is not advisable to leave devices plugged into the OBD port..... that may have related to Carista and the bluetooth function being permanently active. Comments welcome.
Just as a side note.... When I was discussing this with the Master Technician at the dealership i use, he told me that VW are now, after a lot of requests in general, including DPF Regeneration notification in the new Amarok....
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mi OBD no va conectado a bluetooth de llevar casi un año con el y no he tenido ningún problema, espero que os valga.
Yo lo tengo puesto en la zona de volante( es el puntito rojo que se ve) pero se puede poner en cualquier sitio. Me lo pusieron hay porque era un lugar en el cual estaba disimulado.
@totixu, wrote…
My OBD is not connected to bluetooth for almost a year with it and I haven't had any problems, I hope it's worth it.
I have it in the steering wheel area (it's the red dot you can see) but you can put it anywhere. They put it there because it was a place in which it was disguised.
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With grateful thanks for your replies and the information you have shared.
My OBD is not connected to bluetooth for almost a year with it and I haven't had any problems, I hope it's worth it.
I have it in the steering wheel area (it's the red dot you can see) but you can put it anywhere. They put it there because it was a place in which it was disguised.
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With grateful thanks for your replies and the information you have shared.
Tiggy1
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I've been having this issue since purchasing my T6.1. I drive very short distances during the week and only do longer stretches probably a couple of times a month, and so it was frustrating to find out about this.
Anyway, since my service in Feb I began ensuring that I never switched off my engine during a regen.
Regardless.. I still saw my oil levels increase from under half way up the dipstick to over the top in the space of just 2 months. So it appears that solution doesn't prevent the issue.
I took it into my local VAG specialist just to make sure there was no other factors at play. And to also get the software update and yet another oil change for good measure.
They were kind enough to print out the official VW notice on this issue which I though might be useful to others. It's a bit of a pi$$ take. Looks like I'll have to live with quarterly oil changes.
Anyway, since my service in Feb I began ensuring that I never switched off my engine during a regen.
Regardless.. I still saw my oil levels increase from under half way up the dipstick to over the top in the space of just 2 months. So it appears that solution doesn't prevent the issue.
I took it into my local VAG specialist just to make sure there was no other factors at play. And to also get the software update and yet another oil change for good measure.
They were kind enough to print out the official VW notice on this issue which I though might be useful to others. It's a bit of a pi$$ take. Looks like I'll have to live with quarterly oil changes.
Tiggy1
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They won’t warranty it because it can’t be fixed, it’s a design flaw. The cost of recalling or developing and rolling out a solution must be too must to concede.
Looking at the workshop notice they’ve instead decided to blame drivers “exceptional driving profiles”.
Let’s face it, this won’t be the first or last example of manufacturers turning a blind eye to common faults. And since these units are end-of-life VW will keep marching forwards and hope that Ford have done a better job for them on the T7.
Looking at the workshop notice they’ve instead decided to blame drivers “exceptional driving profiles”.
Let’s face it, this won’t be the first or last example of manufacturers turning a blind eye to common faults. And since these units are end-of-life VW will keep marching forwards and hope that Ford have done a better job for them on the T7.
Have a Search with ‘dilution’. Plenty of content on the Forum.
If your oil level is rising without anybody adding oil there are two possibilities:
1. Coolant contamination - emulsified oil, obvious.
2. Fuel dilution - not obvious at all and with a 2% diesel contamination limit before accelerated engine wear is taking place you have to take action immediately.
Actions;
1. Change the oil - syphoning oil off to reduce the level does not reduce the percentage of diesel in the oil.
2. Autotrader.
So discussing it with the dealer, senior VW mechanic, God or your mate down the pub won’t change matters.
If your oil level is rising without anybody adding oil there are two possibilities:
1. Coolant contamination - emulsified oil, obvious.
2. Fuel dilution - not obvious at all and with a 2% diesel contamination limit before accelerated engine wear is taking place you have to take action immediately.
Actions;
1. Change the oil - syphoning oil off to reduce the level does not reduce the percentage of diesel in the oil.
2. Autotrader.
So discussing it with the dealer, senior VW mechanic, God or your mate down the pub won’t change matters.
Yo tampoco me paso ninguna regeneracion ahora y sigue saliendo el fallo, pero si tengo que decir que miro el nivel de aceite y está correcto, meto la varilla y el fallo desaparece hasta la siguiente regeneración. Me he acostumbrado, miro el nivel de aceite cada cierto tiempo por si acaso pero de momento el nivel de aceite está al mismo nivel que cuando me realizó cambio de aceite.
En el próximo cambio les voy a decir que me hagan lo que un usuario ponía por aquí, de vaciar aceite y dejar media hora el motor encendido con el capó abierto, haber si así desaparece.
Has anyone used one of these and if so, does it work ok plugged in all the time?@totixu, Best regards and thanks for the information regarding the device you are using.
Anyone interested in making the same purchase could follow this link but it is from Poland, with high postage costs to the UK....
DPF control – VAG + DIODA - Chiptuningmarket
DPF Control - A device plugged into the OBD socket, which will inform you about the beginning and end of the diesel particulate filter regeneration
UK Seller Link:
(Approx £67.80 Total)DPF Control – VAG CR Group + DIODE
M.S.-Group DPF Control Module A device plugged into the vehicle OBD socket that will monitor and inform you about the start and end of the regeneration procedure of the particle filter in your VAG Group car. The device allows you to reduce fuel consumption and extend the life of the DPF due to...
It looks on the surface like a decent device that gives the information that really should, in my personal opinion, be included in the vehicles in the first place.
Disclaimer: I may purchase one but will do a bit more research before using it. I am no authority in this field! Make your own choice!
I recall reading somewhere that it is not advisable to leave devices plugged into the OBD port..... that may have related to Carista and the bluetooth function being permanently active. Comments welcome.
Just as a side note.... When I was discussing this with the Master Technician at the dealership i use, he told me that VW are now, after a lot of requests in general, including DPF Regeneration notification in the new Amarok....
@Graham Jones, As written in my post above I did purchase one of these and have been using it. It is connected permanently without any issues at all. I managed to thread the small red LED up from below and it protrudes in the centre of the clocks housing, (Hillside T6.1) just above the button to zero the trip.... easy to do!
So far since fitting it I have had three occasions where it has illuminated to signify a regeneration taking place. The signal is approx four audible beeps and the LED lights up. In my case it has taken between 8 - 11 miles running to complete the regeneration. Upon completion, the unit emits a further few beeps and the LED goes off. Two of the three regenerations actually started just as I was arriving home... so I did a bit of a detour to let it complete. The regeneration in my case seems to take place after about 200 miles of general use. This will obviously differ for everyone... I am keeping a log.
I have not used any of the button press additions that are available, such as soot level... just plugged it in and let it get on with the job.
I have been really pleased to have it notify me of the regeneration. It has helped to put my mind at rest to some degree. I still check the oil regularly to keep an eye on things.
So far since fitting it I have had three occasions where it has illuminated to signify a regeneration taking place. The signal is approx four audible beeps and the LED lights up. In my case it has taken between 8 - 11 miles running to complete the regeneration. Upon completion, the unit emits a further few beeps and the LED goes off. Two of the three regenerations actually started just as I was arriving home... so I did a bit of a detour to let it complete. The regeneration in my case seems to take place after about 200 miles of general use. This will obviously differ for everyone... I am keeping a log.
I have not used any of the button press additions that are available, such as soot level... just plugged it in and let it get on with the job.
I have been really pleased to have it notify me of the regeneration. It has helped to put my mind at rest to some degree. I still check the oil regularly to keep an eye on things.
ME alegro que te sirva, yo estoy muy contento con el,como has dicho te avisa al inicio y al final de la regeneracion y tengo que decir que el nivel de aceite se mantiene al mismo nivel que cuando me cambiaron el aceite. Y no me ha dado ningún problema de ningún tipo.
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