Fitted the wheels earlier this week, give her a scrub last night.
Trying to take some more pictures today in daylight.
Trying to take some more pictures today in daylight.
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So, having only had the Van for a few weeks, and with lockdowns etc, haven’t really had the chance to use it that much.
however, I am keen to get some new wheels at some point, and like the look of the Banded wheels.
Am trying to learn more about them, before taking the plunge.
So, my question is around Offsets.
I sort of understand the zero, positive and negative offset figures, but my question is what happens to the offset figure once the wheel has been banded? Does it increase the positive number, as the distance from the centre line to the mounting face would be greater? and so effectively put more of the wheels width inside the actual wheel arch?
So, unless you are starting with a wheel with a negative offset, then any additional width added in, wouldn’t actually push the wheel out any distance.
Sorry if this all seems a little jumbled, but just trying to get my head around it.
Any explanation ( in simple terms please) would be much appreciated.
however, I am keen to get some new wheels at some point, and like the look of the Banded wheels.
Am trying to learn more about them, before taking the plunge.
So, my question is around Offsets.
I sort of understand the zero, positive and negative offset figures, but my question is what happens to the offset figure once the wheel has been banded? Does it increase the positive number, as the distance from the centre line to the mounting face would be greater? and so effectively put more of the wheels width inside the actual wheel arch?
So, unless you are starting with a wheel with a negative offset, then any additional width added in, wouldn’t actually push the wheel out any distance.
Sorry if this all seems a little jumbled, but just trying to get my head around it.
Any explanation ( in simple terms please) would be much appreciated.
The offset on the banded wheels is difficult. But the distance from the mounting face to the inside lip will remain the same. However the distance from the mounting surface to the outer lip will change, by the amount that the wheel has been banded for.
As @Skyliner33 has said above.... the original wheel will remain the same (towards the inside).... the extra band that is put in will increase the width/dish towards the outside
The offset of a banded steel is pretty simple. It's the offset of a none banded steel wheel, with the addition of the widths you are banding. So standard form they are 7.5" wide ET45. The new ET will just add the extra half inch, one inch or what ever you are going.
To make it simple. A banded Amarok will really only fit a max 8.5" front wheel. People have gone 9" but they often poke. The rear can also be 8.5" but most go 9" or even 9.5" like mine. Thus giving you a staggered set up.
Nothing better than a nice wide rear!
Will it not reduce the ET by the amount of the banding?
EDIT: as explained below, it will reduce ET by half the added banding
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i did the math before for myself
standard amarok is 7,5J , ET45
9J -> ET 26,25
8,5J -> ET 32,5
8J-> ET38,75
If you add one inch to the outside, you can subtract 1/2 inch from the original ET value in mm's.
standard amarok is 7,5J , ET45
9J -> ET 26,25
8,5J -> ET 32,5
8J-> ET38,75
If you add one inch to the outside, you can subtract 1/2 inch from the original ET value in mm's.
Sorry for flooding this thread 
I like that a lot.
Definitely
I like everything about that.
Sorry T I dont think that is quite right. The ET of a banded wheel will be LESS than a non banded.
If you look at the (not very wheel like) diagrams below you can see by banding the wheel on the outside that effectively moves the ET nearer to the mounting surface, so the ET is reduced. The change in ET will be different for wheels banded to 8.5 or 9". However the distance from the mounting surface to the outside of the wheel is increased, therefore giving more poke. Hope that help the OP.
First I’ve seen of the 6.1 with steelies I think
looks lovely
@racerke600 has it correct.
The et will reduce (ie. Stick out more) by 50% of the band width added.
ET is the offset from the centre line of the wheel. If you add a 2" band to an already 8" wheel the centreline will only move by an inch, ie. reduce offset by an inch on that wheel.
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The et will reduce (ie. Stick out more) by 50% of the band width added.
ET is the offset from the centre line of the wheel. If you add a 2" band to an already 8" wheel the centreline will only move by an inch, ie. reduce offset by an inch on that wheel.
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I love it when the teacher comes out in you Jon. By adding to the ET, I meant add into your calculations, it just read wrong.
Force of habit. Must try harder not to do it. At least I didnt give you a mark out of 10.
Thank you, it is so much easier to see it laid out
