Puma isn’t wet belt.
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The 1.0 petrol/hybrid unit used in the Puma is indeed wet belt.
According to PumaForums, it’s a timing chain.
According to the stucker on the scuttle of my 2nd lasses Puma its a belt, 150,000 intervals. There may be other variants or sub variants that have a chain.
Something in my mind vaguely recalls some powershift versions being chain, but don't quote me.
No worries. I will check ours out later, but the dealer told me that both the 2024 Puma and the 2022 Focus Estate we bought from them were timing chain. Both had the same 155ps MHEV 1.0 turbo engine, with electric assist, if that affects things.
Not in September 2021 when there were queues all over the country?
Can't recall why, panic buying was it?
I have never had to queue for fuel, the most was just waiting for a single car to finish or making way because someone’s vehicle fuel filler is on the opposite side sided of the vehicle. The latter still happens today other than in supermarket fuel stations where people are not normal allowed to go the wrong way to the pumps. Most small vehicle owners do not realise that the filler hose will reach over or around if their car is parked up to the pumps with some thought. Not possible with vans these days because the hoses appear shorter than they once used to be.
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I remember a mechanic mate telling me the ford 1.0 ecoboom engine changed (in the fiesta anyway) from belt to chain a few years back, he told me to look and see if the turbo was on the front or the back of the engine as that indicated if it was the older wetbelt or newer chain engine, just not sure exactly when or which was around ?
I wondered about pricing but hadn’t mustered enough interest to look yet.
I did look at it with the Skoda Octavia vs the Golf - same car, different badges and one, in theory, cheaper brand than the other.
The Golf won pants down if you wanted anything more than a tin shell full of hard plastic and nothing else. To get an Octavia to the same spec level as the Golf would have cost me an extra £2k at the time. And part of that was paying for safety features included in the Golf but not the Octavia - that was the last biscuit.
So if spec for spec the Transporter is better value for some customers I don’t see an issue. All modern vehicles seem to include design flaws and built in obsolescence and engine add ons that ruin reliability.
I’ll be looking after my T5.1 like it’s a classic Rolls and hoping by the time I need a new van something decent has been made.
I think I can come and play here.
It was the easiest decision I ever made to move away from the T6 to the electric Transit. The T6 over 8 years has let me down constantly with reliability and thirst for fuel and put me off diesel for good.
Yet my T5.1 before it was absolutely superb, what a van.
Still very early days yet but don't regret moving on. This thing is rapid. 282bhp and cheap as chips to run. Build quality (panel gaps aside and paint quality aside) is excellent. Took 14 months to arrive though.
It was the easiest decision I ever made to move away from the T6 to the electric Transit. The T6 over 8 years has let me down constantly with reliability and thirst for fuel and put me off diesel for good.
Yet my T5.1 before it was absolutely superb, what a van.
Still very early days yet but don't regret moving on. This thing is rapid. 282bhp and cheap as chips to run. Build quality (panel gaps aside and paint quality aside) is excellent. Took 14 months to arrive though.
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A bit of work in that.... Can see where my £1000 went
So build quality is excellent, aside from the two most important bits that detemine build quality
There is way more to build quality than that.So build quality is excellent, aside from the two most important bits that detemine build quality
A couple of panel gaps are wider than the T6 and on the EV versions the no fixed in place fuel filler cap from the diesels is not quite flush against the door.
Paint lacquer finish is quite orange peeley. Its no worse than the previous gen Transit but not on the same level as the Transporter.
Fit and finish inside is great and not one panel rattles. Day one on my T6 and about 4 panels rattled which was easily sorted with foam and sound deadening.
Early version of the new Transit were quite bad
Paint bobbles all over, the actual metal stamped panels had waves edges and loads of misaligned panels around the vans, seems.to be sorted now.
A big fat however.....mine is missing sport mode..the mode with the 282bhp inside it. Ford want the van for the whole day to do a 10min configure to open it. Alot of msrt owners are having the issue.
I know I was, very obviously, being cheeky.
That said, I have observed that the panels on SiLs new Transit Custard are relatively thin and flexi compared to my 6.1. Probably of no consequence in the grand scheme, but it is indicative of more a more rigorous cost control and less priority given to feel, impression, and NVH.
The Electric is slower than the more powerful versions of the 6/6.1 but as you've probably already guessed that's only half the tale. The response and torque any speed makes them so much more effortless. I can definitely see why you likes it. We will need a full report when youve had it switched on - I suspect he'll have trouble fitting your smile into the picture.
Make no mistake, if VW had made a proper 6.1 electric instead of that horrible half arsed lash up they had the cheek to offer I'd have had one in a heartbeat. We've been the electric car way for over a decade and would be very happy to have done the same with my camper.
Ya think you have hit the nail on the head.. as much as the transporter is a commercial focus it has a cult following over decades which VW have decided to ditch and do a half arse lazy collab with Ford.. Think what makes it worse is the Ford looks a better van too!! If VW had made the same effort like the iD Buzz I equally would have been very excited to see the results.. instead I optioned to pickup one of the last new t6.1s.. The debate on EV will go on and on but personally if we all switched the whole infrastructure would collapse
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@RattyMcClelland , have you gone full electric or Hybrid? If the EV, what sort of range are you getting, and if the Hybrid, what mpg?
We were in the very south of France at the time and the French were blockading fuel deliveries. We were able to pop into Spain to fill up to so that we could ride around during our holiday, but we couldn't buy enough fuel to get us home in one hit. We had to stay an extra couple of days until deliveries of fuel in France resumed, so managed to drive home without too much trouble. When we got home, the following week there were fuel shortages here too. Whether it was a knock on of the French stamping their feet, or us making a fuss as well, I can't remember.
The National Grid CEO says the grid is up to it, and I'd like to think he'd have the inside line.
Any van powered by an external power source, be it dino, electrons, pies, or fairy dust, is, hostage to the integrity of that's supply.
There have been multiple occasions over the last quarter century where dino has been impossible or difficult to obtain for short to intermediate periods. Fuel strikes, picketing of refineries, overseas conflict, and that doesn't seem to be an excuse that stops people buying diesel cars.
Yet the same argument re fuel supply strangely gets aired as justification for not buying an electric van. Very peculiar.
Conversely, some countries are finding the opposite. When typhoons hit Australia and interrupt the electricity supply (and no electricity means no petrol or diesel sales as the pumps won't work) the locals are making sure their EVs are well charged and are using them to power their homes while dino drivers sit at home in the dark and est cold food out of cans besause their fridges don't work.
When the wheel comes off over here old Ratty will be laughing.
Any van powered by an external power source, be it dino, electrons, pies, or fairy dust, is, hostage to the integrity of that's supply.
There have been multiple occasions over the last quarter century where dino has been impossible or difficult to obtain for short to intermediate periods. Fuel strikes, picketing of refineries, overseas conflict, and that doesn't seem to be an excuse that stops people buying diesel cars.
Yet the same argument re fuel supply strangely gets aired as justification for not buying an electric van. Very peculiar.
Conversely, some countries are finding the opposite. When typhoons hit Australia and interrupt the electricity supply (and no electricity means no petrol or diesel sales as the pumps won't work) the locals are making sure their EVs are well charged and are using them to power their homes while dino drivers sit at home in the dark and est cold food out of cans besause their fridges don't work.
When the wheel comes off over here old Ratty will be laughing.
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