Not as much as I used to when I worked there, but it is certainly quieter around where I was (W1). I expect the traffic will be worse on the edge of the ULEZ though.
Are EVs the way forward?
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What a great idea.....mandates and law changes to make us all agree with your views.....what country are you living in?
The land of the fee. 
.....stayed at a really nice campsite near York in 2023 in the MH for a couple of nights and Mrs SMC brought the EV as she was still working. They had a dedicated EV parking area, in the adjacent field. The owner said it was because of the evident risk of them spontaneously bursting into flames apparently.
I suspect it was more to stop owners charging them up on pitches.....
We had someone next to use on a pitch with a caravan and not allowed to charge on pitch.
They moved the Tesla very close to the awning to plug in and put a towel over the charger lead and flap.
Gave use a good laugh but they got away with it.
Had the buzz a year now 16000 mile and never needed to charge at public charger. It works for me and would never go back now but agree it wont work for everyone . We will be towing the caravan with it next year so will update on how we get along.
By the time we get to 2035 we will have 500 mile range and 10 minute charge time with fast charges fitted in petrol stations.
they can then put tax on the electric as it will be the only way to charge them. Cheap slow charging will stop as connector on the car will change allowing only DC charging.
They moved the Tesla very close to the awning to plug in and put a towel over the charger lead and flap.
Gave use a good laugh but they got away with it.
Had the buzz a year now 16000 mile and never needed to charge at public charger. It works for me and would never go back now but agree it wont work for everyone . We will be towing the caravan with it next year so will update on how we get along.
By the time we get to 2035 we will have 500 mile range and 10 minute charge time with fast charges fitted in petrol stations.
they can then put tax on the electric as it will be the only way to charge them. Cheap slow charging will stop as connector on the car will change allowing only DC charging.
There are already cars with 500+ miles range, 600 even if you have the money, and 300-400 is now largely rhe norm.
I'm not so sure about 10 minute charging. There have been lots of incremental breakthroughs in commercial battery tech but no major leaps. Well, several major leaps in the lab but nothing yet than can be made to work at a price that makes it commercially viable.
There will doubtless be more incremental improvements but without an as yet unforeseen leap in tech 10 minutes is likely a bit hopeful by 2035. That said, in 12 years we've only once used a public charger, and that was only because Mrs Sasquatch wanted to see how the app work and test it. Never since.
Our car with an paper 270 mile range managed 298 yesterday as we had to go Essex PM. Despite the cool temps coming home (temperature being another vastly overstated Daily Mail level piecec of nonsense about range) we bettered the official range by over 10% and still had an indicated 33 miles left in the 'tank', which could have been eeked out further by use or Eco mode but didn'tneed to.
We could have plugged in while enjoying the delights of Oktoberfest and had a full battery for the return, but we knew we didnt need to. Who needs to do 331 miles in one hit every day? Very few indeed, but that remains the number one excuse trotted out by the flat earthers in the caves.
I'm not so sure about 10 minute charging. There have been lots of incremental breakthroughs in commercial battery tech but no major leaps. Well, several major leaps in the lab but nothing yet than can be made to work at a price that makes it commercially viable.
There will doubtless be more incremental improvements but without an as yet unforeseen leap in tech 10 minutes is likely a bit hopeful by 2035. That said, in 12 years we've only once used a public charger, and that was only because Mrs Sasquatch wanted to see how the app work and test it. Never since.
Our car with an paper 270 mile range managed 298 yesterday as we had to go Essex PM. Despite the cool temps coming home (temperature being another vastly overstated Daily Mail level piecec of nonsense about range) we bettered the official range by over 10% and still had an indicated 33 miles left in the 'tank', which could have been eeked out further by use or Eco mode but didn'tneed to.
We could have plugged in while enjoying the delights of Oktoberfest and had a full battery for the return, but we knew we didnt need to. Who needs to do 331 miles in one hit every day? Very few indeed, but that remains the number one excuse trotted out by the flat earthers in the caves.
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Roman Chariot, Stage Coach, Tea Clippers, Canal boats, Steam Ships, Titanic, Flying Scotsman, Mallard, Apollo, Concorde, SkyLab, Space Shuttle, VHS, Betamax, CDs, Walkman, Laser Discs, Ipods, MP3 players, Sinclair C5, Milk floats, they were all the epitome of technology & going to be the "next big thing"....and then something else came along. If there is one thing that is certain (apart from death & taxes) it's that change happens & it's constant. So in answer to the original question; Maybe. EV's are another incremental change, they aren't the future, because if history teaches us one thing, it's that we haven't a clue what the future holds. And we are arrogant if we think otherwise. We can discuss until the cows come home, and there's nothing wrong with discussion. But let's not get entrenched, because the future will be something that we haven't even thought of yet.
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Just what I thought.
Because I'm not interested in EV's and have no intention of ever owning one, I'm a"flat earther"
Flat earther
Right wing
Tin foil hat wearer
“people like you”
All been used on this thread to describe anyone that doesn’t agree with what they have bought into.
Apparently using your own observations to make up your own mind whether you like them or not turns you into one of the above.
Please God, let the cows come home! Soon...
We shouldn't be too thin skinned as there can't really be any troglodytes on the forum?
I will admit I had to look up that Spanish word since edited out sadly and I was going to second the Daily Maul mentality but that's been sanitised by my poxy spell checker too so I guess it was more of an happy accident.
In all fairness though the diversionary tactic of a readiness to be offended at the flimsiest of thinly veiled slights shields an unwillingness to compromise or even attempt to understand what this new way of getting from A to B involves and is regressive and a bit of a cop out.
If the reluctance to change from Ice to EV comes down to the ease of refueling either type of vehicle when we know one type of fuel is also infinitely available, not the at most 50 or 100 years more of the other stuff but infinitely replaceable then surely to resist changing over is bonkers.
I will admit I had to look up that Spanish word since edited out sadly and I was going to second the Daily Maul mentality but that's been sanitised by my poxy spell checker too so I guess it was more of an happy accident.
In all fairness though the diversionary tactic of a readiness to be offended at the flimsiest of thinly veiled slights shields an unwillingness to compromise or even attempt to understand what this new way of getting from A to B involves and is regressive and a bit of a cop out.
If the reluctance to change from Ice to EV comes down to the ease of refueling either type of vehicle when we know one type of fuel is also infinitely available, not the at most 50 or 100 years more of the other stuff but infinitely replaceable then surely to resist changing over is bonkers.
Very telling isn't it....and they keep talking about "mistruths"
@ginkster I just used a simple Google search “lines of computer code in car controls”. Maybe you disagree, but when I worked in Ricardo PLC our Centenary Lecture also made such a statement although back then in 2015 it was just 10 million lines! The aircraft comparison excluded passenger entertainment systems.
Don't think anyone really is adverse to the change of EVs or hydrogen, just some of us are still on the fence as it's still relatively new technology that just needs fine tuning to be more affordable and reassuring for us cave dwellers. As for low-level snipes, my nursery days are behind me and use this forum for information and admiring other people's vans, whether diesel, petrol, or evs!! Not who's got the bigger club! (Caveman club not gentlemens appendage )
)I don't know, I've never seen anybody claim that on this thread or anywhere else.
Reality is, sadly, uncomfortable for many.Started well then spoiled yourself at the end
I, me, was the one asking the question.
I never attributed such a claim to anyone. That being the case it's a strange comment for you to make.
Yet the question is one worthy of consideration. When the average motorist does a mere 23 miles a day, who indeed does need more than 331 miles range? There are people on this very thread who have stated they will go EV when the range improves, so the question is pertinent.
When the range was a feeble 100 mile people said they'd get one when the range improves.
Then at 200 they said the same.
And now the 300-400 range is quite normal family car territory, and even 600+ is available should one desire (and the model I'm thinking of there actually went significantly further in independent testing) and still they say they'll wait until the range improves.
That's now a weak excuse for most motorists, not a genuine objection.
YES BORING AS HELL!!!
