Portable Power Packs - LifePo4 Battery Boxes -- How I done It --

[roadtripper]

Having quickly skimmed the main site what the product images don't get across is those are actually physically quite large...

I really like the idea, but I think it would be more widely taken up with slightly simpler and smaller units.

 

[psulli16]

Having quickly skimmed the main site what the product images don't get across is those are actually physically quite large...

I really like the idea, but I think it would be more widely taken up with slightly simpler and smaller units.

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Yes it’s a fair size unit. Dred to think the cost

 

[psulli16]

So decided on the Anker SOLIX C1000. Next to decide do I need a roof solar panel as I fear it’ll take decades to charge up over the 12v supply

 

[roadtripper]

By the looks of it that has a single XT60 input for both car and solar charging so you can't do both at the same time.

In the specs this allows 10A under 32v and 12.5A over that up to 60v

So the ideal would be to arrange a reasonably cabled and fused (15A?) fixed feed from your electrics to an XT60 to plug in to charge from the van as 10A is a bit heavy long term in a traditional 12v socket.

To get significantly faster from solar you are going to need panels that generate over 32v and 10A to 12.5A isn't the biggest jump so nearer the mid 50v really.

 

[psulli16]

Anker SOLIX C1000 Solar Generator + 200W Solar PanelJust ordered this

Whoooo Hoooo just got this ordered

 

[peter1987t]

I did the exact same thing! I ordered the c1000 + The expansion battery, awsome deal!

I am looking to charge it will driving using one of these options.
If I am correct, using the Victron Orion TR Smart DC-DC Or the regular one, I should have something like 300 watts vs 120watts max using the 12v car charger.

1. Victron Orion-Tr Smart DC-DC Obelink​

2. Victron Orion 20 Amp Converter https://amzn.to/41JRUPh​

3. 12v to 36v 20 Amp Converter - DC-DC 12V Step Up to 36V 20A Car Power Supply Converter Regulator Waterproof | eBay​

4. 12v to 24v 20 Amp Converter - https://amzn.to/40rEW7C​

C1000 DC input specs;
(DC Input: 11-32V 10A) (32-60V 12,5A)

What do you think?

 

[Amber]

I've just ordered 2x Ecoflow River 2 Pro - cos they are available refurbished on amazon at £363 each (with a 30% off voucher) just seemed ridiculously low price and I figured I get 50% more juice for the same price I would have paid for the delta 2. (The delta 2 is also available at £609) Hope there is nothing wrong with it. Search for renewed and make sure you redeem the voucher.

 

[Wag86]

Could someone let me know if they think using something like the allpowers s700 or r600 would be good enough for a couple of nights away to keep devices and a compressor cool box running?

The r600 is down to £200 currently

 

[Wag86]

Would this be a good option

https://amzn.eu/d/bE19wnI

 

[Dellmassive]

Say hello to the latest family member.....

EF Delta2 Max

The bigger brother to the Delta2.

2400w/3100w and 2048wh

Now with twin DC inputs and 2400w mains charge.

Plus EF have just Beta released a DC-DC charger that can charge up to 800w from the engine bay.... nice !! (Looks like it will work with all Delta units) ( Basically a EF OEM version of the 12-48v step up bost converter, charging the internal 48v battery direct from the side expansion port)

It's a one stop portable EHU shop, where as the Delta2 was a bit short in capacity at 1024wh, allowing 80% of that. It was a bit to short for a weekend.

The Delta2 MAX now doubles the capacity to 2048wh and bumps the inverter size a bit too....

Roll on the next camp out for a test....

With twin DC inputs for solar or dc-dc up to 1000w this should allow me to run my Chico 700w heater in the van off grid, as well as the kettle, coffee machine, fridges etc etc..... if if I run out of juice a quick plug in to EHU will see me charging at 10A from the post or up to 2400w.... Now that's FAST!

Just a few pics for now.
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There is one bigger, the delta pro, but the size is just too big.

It's like the three little bears...

The Delta2 just to small.?

The delta pro too big?

Let's see if their Delta2 Max is just right.


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This will be portable, dropped in the van when needed.

I'll be using a pair of XT 60i to SB50 Anderson connectors for the DC charge..... Connected to a 230ah lithium under the seat. That will have a 50A dc-dc engine bay charger - eventually.

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Remember that the unit limits the 12v car charge to 100w or 8A to stop the socket melting.

They are using the newer orange XT60i connector that has a third pin that tell the unit the max charge rate.

So the 12v socket cable is limited to 100w.

But the solar/PV link cable is set to allow up to 500w by allowing higher voltages

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[Dellmassive]

First proper weekend out with the EF Delta2 Max. . .
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this was the setup. . .


200w Renogy solar suitcase, on a 75/15 victron,



which at one point gave us the full 200w !!!



that was feeding the @RoamerBatteries SB230 in the battery box.




which was being used a buffer battery for the Delta2 MAX. (trickle charging in @ 100w)





nice. . .




this setup enabled us to run the two Dometic compressor fridges for the 5days trip.





we had the CADACs and Gas for cooking,



but also had the 1400w coffee machine, 1000w kettle and 500w milk frother on the go. . . . . .






which was nice. . . .


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whole setup had us running for the full 5 days,

by this point the Roamer battery was low at 5%, but the EF D2M was still at 50% - so we made it without running out. ( a mix of a few sunny days and a few cloudy days)




and for the keen eyed,

we we also had the EF River2,

that was mainly to pass around the camp for other people to charge battery packs and phones etc. . .

we charged at home,

and it never run out. . . . so happy days.




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[Drive Wayne]

First proper weekend out with the EF Delta2 Max. . .

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this was the setup. . .


200w Renogy solar suitcase, on a 75/15 victron,

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which at one point gave us the full 200w !!!

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that was feeding the @RoamerBatteries SB230 in the battery box.

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which was being used a buffer battery for the Delta2 MAX. (trickle charging in @ 100w)



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nice. . .

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this setup enabled us to run the two Dometic compressor fridges for the 5days trip.


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we had the CADACs and Gas for cooking,

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but also had the 1400w coffee machine, 1000w kettle and 500w milk frother on the go. . . . . .



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which was nice. . . .

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whole setup had us running for the full 5 days,

by this point the Roamer battery was low at 5%, but the EF D2M was still at 50% - so we made it without running out. ( a mix of a few sunny days and a few cloudy days)

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and for the keen eyed,

we we also had the EF River2,

that was mainly to pass around the camp for other people to charge battery packs and phones etc. . .

we charged at home,

and it never run out. . . . so happy days.


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I just don't know how on earth you fit that milk frother in! Thank goodness I take my coffee black!

 

[T6Bob32]

just noticed a major benefit of my cable -- 160W charge Rate from 12v --


double sweet . . .

charging and testing all the gear for T6F summer camp..


and polaying with the settings. . .


On the ECOFLOW units you can set the INPUT as car/solar/auto.


in CAR & AUTO setting ( assuming below 15v ) it sets the current limiter - 2/4/6/8A input max - so 100w

BUT, when you set the INPUT to SOLAR it removes the Limiter . . . so woosh, max power from my battery box.
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look 160W in from the 12v batteyr box.

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with the EF input DC mode set to SOLAR.


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this is confirmed looking at the Poweroad Lifpo4 battery BMS. . .

shows 13.0v

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with the CAR setting you can see its limiting to 8A into the EF.


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but with the SOLAR setting the limiter is removed and were getting 13.3A in.


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which is now giving us 160W input charge power from out 12v lithium storage box.

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Nice...

How are you getting to the DC Mode screen?

Can't see it on the EFD2

I can change the car input 4/6/8A but can't select solar/auto?

Perhaps I need to connect something to it to change the setting. Currently there's no input.

 

[Dellmassive]

Ah. That's form the EF River 2.

Which has the standard XT60 connector.. (and the option in the menu)



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The EF D2 and D2-Max use the XT60-i conector.. which has a third center pin.

This pin is wired in a way that tells the unit if the cable is for a CAR connection, or SOLAR connection.

So you need to buy the car or solar connection cable.

Car is limited to 8A, and Solar allows the higher voltage.

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[T6Bob32]

So you need to buy the car or solar connection cable.

Ok, so if I made up my own fused XT60i cable and connected it to to the terminals on a 100ah storage battery, can I expect the EFD2 to pull 160W from the battery, without the option to change it to the solar setting?

 

[roadtripper]

8amps x 12volts = 96W

Actual voltage from a well charged battery might be a little higher but 100w over an 8A car connection is your rule of thumb

 

[T6Bob32]

As Dells above posts, he's managed to remove the 8A limiter and got 13.3A in. I'm wondering if he's managed it on the EFD2 without the option to change it from the Car 8A setting

 

[roadtripper]

As @Dellmassive says if you have the 3 pin XT60i cable the 8A limiter is removed:

This pin is wired in a way that tells the unit if the cable is for a CAR connection, or SOLAR connection.

So you need to buy the car or solar connection cable.

Car is limited to 8A, and Solar allows the higher voltage

There is a small typo there, he meant higher current not higher voltage.

 

[roadtripper]

The third pin is possibly just bonded to one of the other main pins to do the signalling. Possibly to future proof things it might actually be a resistance because then different values of resistance could signal different things.

Would be interesting if anyone has the official cable to stick a multimeter across the connectors and find out, useful info if folks want to make up custom cables.

Having said that I never enjoy making up an XT60 I can't imagine the extra pin makes it any more fun so maybe cannibalising an official cable is easier.

 

[Dellmassive]

So you need to buy the car or solar connection cable.

Ok, so if I made up my own fused XT60i cable and connected it to to the terminals on a 100ah storage battery, can I expect the EFD2 to pull 160W from the battery, without the option to change it to the solar setting?

Not tried that on the delta2 yet.

I've just been using my regular xt60 to Anderson leads... And charging at the 8A.

I'll see what cables I got.... The delta2 comes with the 12v 8A plug lead.... I'll see if I have the XT60i solar/mc4 lead.... Which allows for the higher voltage.

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Did you know they have released the EF 800w DC-DC charger, it's about £329 with full cable set and fuses.