Great thread Dell. I’m starting a kitchen near the Oval tomorrow. I hate London and havnt been in 15 years. Wish me luck getting out of bed at 5am rather than 7!!
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Good luck buddy.... I'll be up at 5am, traveling round the M25 merry go round towards Surrey.
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so it doesnt look like the last garage replaced the drop-links. . .
but there is a very annoying knock/rattle coming from the front lower passenger side.
its doing my head in.
Now im ALL-IN i thought id call the boys, - called the number, stated a engine knocking noise and request a Silver van guy only please.
and just like magic here they are.
now this took some work . . . . . from us both.
noise noticeable from inside the van, but not with the windows open or from outside,
its worse in morning with a cold van, but eases off to nothing when warm.
we had the van jacked up . . . but couldn't hear a thing.
we was rocking the engine, ARB, mounts, revving etc etc but couldn't reproduce it.
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next up i worked out that you can hear it from outside the van if you had your ear to the A-pillar.
on the passenger side only. . .
then i kept a listen out as he wiggled and giggled everything.
but nothing. . .
so after a mid job cup of tea, he said one more go.
i was listening the van through the panels when he cracked it. . .
"its there, its gone, its there, its gone, its there, its gone, its there, its gone, "
"i think i know what it is" he said
some solenoid valve that was supposed to be fixed to the under side of the derv filter has one of the two brackets snapped of.
looks like its got broken during the DMF job . . . and they just stuffed it up in a gap.
until if fell back down.
at which point it started to vibrate against the derv filter, which directly transferred the sounds to the bodywork.
jeez. . . .
a quick call to TPS he had one ordered.
and hour later he was back and fitted the new bracket . . - a right ball ache to fit apparently, which was prob why it got left in the first place.
well done VWCV Assist - top job.
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while he was there i asked him to put his eyes on the Bus (our other T6) that looked to me like a cracked front EGR pipe. . .
yes it cracked - i can deal with that for you next week.
sweet . . . the van was already booked in the garage for that but in 6weeks time!!
so i accepted his kind offer to fixing the bus, and once its done ill cancel the main dealer appointment.
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so once again the "ALL-IN - warranty - call out- service - MOT" - has done me a solid and saved me a trip to the dealers and had my van fixed on my drive.
FYI - we have the ALL-IN cover on both vans . . .
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The Van goes in for its 71K mile service under ALL-IN.
10k service due at 71k miles, so we a tad early at 69k miles . . . but who counting.
small service so just oil and filter + Health Check.
they report the front discs are 70% worn and the disks are lipped . . . but are so busy they dont want to replace them !!
"you have 30% left to go, thats ages" the Service guy said.
that's almost un-heard of years ago - pads & disk are easy money for them - but just too busy to bother these days.
2x hours @ £130ph = £260=vat labour !!!
Jeez £130+vat ph!!!!
same with the tyres 3-4mm on the two fronts.
butthey didnt offer to replace them, just signed off the job as "declined, customer has own tech" - they didnt even ask me if i wanted new tyres !!
now for the real kicker. . . . Front Main Oil Seal Leak !!!
and guess what "seals are not covered under all in" the chat explained.
and heres the quote they offered me . . . £1158.30 !!!!!!!
its interesting to see whats involved in the job, looking at the parts list below.
new seal, new bolts and new oil. . and 4.5hr labour ( but they have to leave the van overnight before filling with oil, to allow the sealant to set. )
well. . . . i gotta say i was gobsmacked.
hold on - i had the front main seal done already, 8k miles ago . . . .
when i had the EGR replaced . . . feb 2023, last year. - 8k miles ago. - as part of the factory extended warranty for years 4 & 5.
so can you sort it out i asked - Nope, you need to go back to that garage and get them to do the job again..... FFS
here we are - the following morning.
No Health check video,
so any proof that the leak is there, so i check myself.
yep its leaking.
night mare. . . . vans now booked back into original garage for "oil leak - front main seal"
let see what they say !!
its on the VW mothership system as being done. . . so im expecting 24months parts/labour warranty.
or did they not do it? and just re-seal it?
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10k service due at 71k miles, so we a tad early at 69k miles . . . but who counting.
small service so just oil and filter + Health Check.
they report the front discs are 70% worn and the disks are lipped . . . but are so busy they dont want to replace them !!
"you have 30% left to go, thats ages" the Service guy said.
that's almost un-heard of years ago - pads & disk are easy money for them - but just too busy to bother these days.
2x hours @ £130ph = £260=vat labour !!!
Jeez £130+vat ph!!!!
same with the tyres 3-4mm on the two fronts.
butthey didnt offer to replace them, just signed off the job as "declined, customer has own tech" - they didnt even ask me if i wanted new tyres !!
now for the real kicker. . . . Front Main Oil Seal Leak !!!
and guess what "seals are not covered under all in" the chat explained.
and heres the quote they offered me . . . £1158.30 !!!!!!!
its interesting to see whats involved in the job, looking at the parts list below.
new seal, new bolts and new oil. . and 4.5hr labour ( but they have to leave the van overnight before filling with oil, to allow the sealant to set. )
well. . . . i gotta say i was gobsmacked.
hold on - i had the front main seal done already, 8k miles ago . . . .
when i had the EGR replaced . . . feb 2023, last year. - 8k miles ago. - as part of the factory extended warranty for years 4 & 5.
so can you sort it out i asked - Nope, you need to go back to that garage and get them to do the job again..... FFS
here we are - the following morning.
No Health check video,
so any proof that the leak is there, so i check myself.
yep its leaking.
night mare. . . . vans now booked back into original garage for "oil leak - front main seal"
let see what they say !!
its on the VW mothership system as being done. . . so im expecting 24months parts/labour warranty.
or did they not do it? and just re-seal it?
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Thought it was about time to address the seat base situation. . .
its been like this from day one,
and due to me constantly changing the kit under there, i used Velcro and Anderson connectors.
the problem being that the heat of summer and the kit running makes the glue weak on the Velcro and they fall off. - not good.
so the plan is to use some ply woods cur to size and velcro`d in . . . then i can screw kit to that as a temporary permeant thing.
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here the idea, wood chopy chopy. . .
was concidering carpet . . . . but i think black paint will be more suitable.
the blacl gloss had gummed up,
so next option was matt black high temp BBQ spray paint...
as it turns ok it looks ok, i think . .
the adding some velcro to keep it in place. . .
screwing the dc-dc charger, MIDI fuse box, Ablemail AMT2-12 to the boards just left the spaghetti on the floor.
which is covered up nicly with the decorative base peice. . .
ill add some stand off legs at a later date. . .
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now just have to monitor how hot the new Victron XS gets . . . . its set at 30A for the meantime.
its been like this from day one,
and due to me constantly changing the kit under there, i used Velcro and Anderson connectors.
the problem being that the heat of summer and the kit running makes the glue weak on the Velcro and they fall off. - not good.
so the plan is to use some ply woods cur to size and velcro`d in . . . then i can screw kit to that as a temporary permeant thing.
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here the idea, wood chopy chopy. . .
was concidering carpet . . . . but i think black paint will be more suitable.
the blacl gloss had gummed up,
so next option was matt black high temp BBQ spray paint...
as it turns ok it looks ok, i think . .
the adding some velcro to keep it in place. . .
screwing the dc-dc charger, MIDI fuse box, Ablemail AMT2-12 to the boards just left the spaghetti on the floor.
which is covered up nicly with the decorative base peice. . .
ill add some stand off legs at a later date. . .
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now just have to monitor how hot the new Victron XS gets . . . . its set at 30A for the meantime.
looking to get the brakes sorted . . .
pads and discs are normal. . .
but that damaged sensor loom . . .
vw luckily enough gave us the part number. . .
7LA927903F - HARNESS.
TPS have it in stock. . .
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pads and discs are normal. . .
but that damaged sensor loom . . .
vw luckily enough gave us the part number. . .
7LA927903F - HARNESS.
TPS have it in stock. . .
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NUTEXA - Brake Pad & Disc change - How I Done It -
new pads and discs - these look so sweet. !!
www.t6forum.com
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new pads and discs - these look so sweet. !!
NUTEXA - Brake Pad & Disc change - How I Done It -
NUTEXA - Brake Pad & Disc change - How I Done It - Its that time again, Pads and discs on the T6 T32 Sportline . . . . . . and following on from the Dealer Visit, they reported 75% worn fronts. - @Dellmassive`s T6 T32 Sportline 204 LWB DSG PV MY18 - Van Adventure i thought we would give our...
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Getting my flywheel replaced and I put it down to that, but getting a jolt when pressing and releasing throttle like the mount is loose on the gear box. Thought it was the fly wheel as that’s knackered fine from rattling to vibrations through cab but could be drive shafts or maybe just drop links. It’s a mine field lol
we think my "drive train knock" was related to the suspension drop links. . .
but oddly enough the noise has done after the last round of DMF works.
the tech mentioned it must be because the subframe was out and everything has been refitted - whatever, no noise so im happy.
but oddly enough the noise has done after the last round of DMF works.
the tech mentioned it must be because the subframe was out and everything has been refitted - whatever, no noise so im happy.
58 out of 60 correct. . .
even with the USA twist, and the two that were wrong were trick questions in my book.
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give it a try: QUIZ: Can You Name The Car Part Based On An Image - Brake For It
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even with the USA twist, and the two that were wrong were trick questions in my book.
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give it a try: QUIZ: Can You Name The Car Part Based On An Image - Brake For It
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T6 T32 Sportline 204 LWB DSG PV MY18
Engine Bay for reference.
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just had the MOT done at VW, under the ALL-IN package.
lost faith in the two local VW CV garages at Loughton & Dartford, so tried the next nearest out of London one.
VW CV Chelmsford.
well so far very impressed, we was onsite at 745am, booked in by 8am.
van was on the ramp by 815am
and we was on the way to work by 915am.
so far the plan to get a garage out of London seems to be paying off.
The Service advisor AMY was efficient and on point.
the waiting area was nice, free vend Tea, coffee machine, . . with TV for radio etc . .
plus CCTV screen showing the MOT ramp. - nice touch VWCV Chelmsford.
van on the rollers. . . .
and van on the Ramp. . .
and we also got a included HEALTH CHECK. . .
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health check video . . . Cloud link.
photos.app.goo.gl
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so far very happy.
and will be happy to take either van back for future works.
it was nice to be in a calm chilled environment and not the normal chaos of angry customers and heated discussions at 8am in the morning.
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Faith now temporarily restored in a dealership.
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lost faith in the two local VW CV garages at Loughton & Dartford, so tried the next nearest out of London one.
VW CV Chelmsford.
well so far very impressed, we was onsite at 745am, booked in by 8am.
van was on the ramp by 815am
and we was on the way to work by 915am.
so far the plan to get a garage out of London seems to be paying off.
The Service advisor AMY was efficient and on point.
the waiting area was nice, free vend Tea, coffee machine, . . with TV for radio etc . .
plus CCTV screen showing the MOT ramp. - nice touch VWCV Chelmsford.
van on the rollers. . . .
and van on the Ramp. . .
and we also got a included HEALTH CHECK. . .
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health check video . . . Cloud link.
New video by ESD Lee
photos.app.goo.gl
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Cost Breakdown
Please review the items listed below and authorise work that you’d like carried out on your vehicle.- Visually Ok
- Advisory
- Urgent
- Not Checked
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| Item | Status | Price | Include | |
| Internal | ||||
| Warning Lamps | - | - | ||
| Interior Lamps | - | - | ||
| Horn | - | - | ||
| Instruments | - | - | ||
| Wipers and Washers | - | - | ||
| Seatbelts | - | - | ||
| Clutch | - | - | ||
| Foot and Hand Brake Operation | - | - | ||
| Other | - | - | ||
| External | ||||
| Body Damage | - | - | ||
| Trim | - | - | ||
| Glass | - | - | ||
| Mirrors | - | - | ||
| External Lights | - | - | ||
| Wiper Blades and Lock operation | - | - | ||
| Other | - | - | ||
| Under Bonnet | ||||
| Brake Fluid Condition | - | - | ||
| Battery Condition | - | - | ||
| Coolant Level / Anti-Freeze Strength | - | - | ||
| Engine Oil Level | - | - | ||
| Engine oil level full | ||||
| Power Steering | - | - | ||
| Drive Belts | - | - | ||
| Screenwash Level | - | - | ||
| Other | - | - | ||
| Brakes, Suspension and Bearings | ||||
| Visual Check of Brake Disc's | - | - | ||
| Visual Check of Brake Hoses and Dampers | - | - | ||
| Visual Check of Brake Pads - Front | - | - | ||
| 20 percent Worn - Front Brake Pads | ||||
| Suspension | - | - | ||
| Other | - | - | ||
| Visual Check of Brake Pads Rear | - | - | ||
| 20 percent Worn - Rear Brake Pads | ||||
| Underbody and Steering | ||||
| Steering | - | - | ||
| Drive Shafts | - | - | ||
| Hoses | - | - | ||
| Oil Leaks | - | - | ||
| Exhaust System | - | - | ||
| Other | - | - | ||
| Other | ||||
| Service Book | - | - | ||
| Digital Service Booklet | ||||
| Locking Wheel Nut | - | - | ||
| Not Fitted | ||||
| Brake Fluid Due | - | - | ||
| Cambelt Due | - | - | ||
| Other | - | - | ||
| Tyres | ||||
| Front Right | - | - | ||
| 7.5 MM | ||||
| Front Left | - | - | ||
| 7.5 MM | ||||
| Rear Right | - | - | ||
| 4.5 MM - Size | ||||
| Rear Left | - | - | ||
| 4.5 MM - Size | ||||
| Spare | - | - | ||
| 8.5 MM |
| Cost of Work Selected | £0.00 |
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so far very happy.
and will be happy to take either van back for future works.
it was nice to be in a calm chilled environment and not the normal chaos of angry customers and heated discussions at 8am in the morning.
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Faith now temporarily restored in a dealership.
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The Van goes in for its 71K mile service under ALL-IN.
10k service due at 71k miles, so we a tad early at 69k miles . . . but who counting.
small service so just oil and filter + Health Check.
View attachment 225829
View attachment 225830
they report the front discs are 70% worn and the disks are lipped . . . but are so busy they dont want to replace them !!
"you have 30% left to go, thats ages" the Service guy said.
that's almost un-heard of years ago - pads & disk are easy money for them - but just too busy to bother these days.
2x hours @ £130ph = £260=vat labour !!!
Jeez £130+vat ph!!!!
View attachment 225831
same with the tyres 3-4mm on the two fronts.
butthey didnt offer to replace them, just signed off the job as "declined, customer has own tech" - they didnt even ask me if i wanted new tyres !!
View attachment 225832
now for the real kicker. . . . Front Main Oil Seal Leak !!!
View attachment 225833
and guess what "seals are not covered under all in" the chat explained.
and heres the quote they offered me . . . £1158.30 !!!!!!!
its interesting to see whats involved in the job, looking at the parts list below.
new seal, new bolts and new oil. . and 4.5hr labour ( but they have to leave the van overnight before filling with oil, to allow the sealant to set. )
View attachment 225835
well. . . . i gotta say i was gobsmacked.
hold on - i had the front main seal done already, 8k miles ago . . . .
when i had the EGR replaced . . . feb 2023, last year. - 8k miles ago. - as part of the factory extended warranty for years 4 & 5.
so can you sort it out i asked - Nope, you need to go back to that garage and get them to do the job again..... FFS
here we are - the following morning.
No Health check video,
so any proof that the leak is there, so i check myself.
yep its leaking.
View attachment 225837View attachment 225838View attachment 225840
night mare. . . . vans now booked back into original garage for "oil leak - front main seal"
let see what they say !!
its on the VW mothership system as being done. . . so im expecting 24months parts/labour warranty.
or did they not do it? and just re-seal it?
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-- Vans now booked back into original garage for "oil leak - front main seal" --
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so booked the van back in to the garage that done the Crankshaft seal. . .
well - what a mare !!!
dropped it off - but pre-booked hire van from 6weeks ago isn't available !!
45mins later they agree to give me a new sales van . . . and ask me to look after it.
(gotta say i love the electric steering on the T6.1, and the auto re-start feature on the stop/start. and like the electric locks as well - but feel the build quality is a bit cheaper than the T6, which i feel is a bit cheaper than the T5.1 and so on. . . . . cost cutting all the way, yet the vans get more expensive)
the next day i get a phone call. . .
we cant find a leak on your van - its been on a ramp ticking over for hours, no leak, please come and collect it. -- Hmm ok.
during that night the tracker kept pinging me low battery warnings as they had left it pushed in the corner with the ignition ON - all night !!, by the morning the battery was dead flat and the van had gone off-line,
when i arrived at the garage they said they would get the the van round. . . but i knew it was dead flat.
so they tried jump starting it, but the ghost imobiliser had kicked back in out of VALET MODE as the battery went so flat.
so they couldnt start it. . . . "oh we just need to charge the battery a bit" was the reply.
by now the battery had some power back in it so the van come back to life, including the front dash cam . . . .
it was painful watching them trying to start the van . .
in the end i just asked the SA to get the GM so we could get the van started.
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the saga continues . .
taking me out back to the van i asked "so no leak then?" - nope was the reply,
ok - so why did the other garage say i needed a new crank seal?
"dunno "the GM said?
"ok, well while we here can we lift the van up and take off the engine under cover, i can keep an eye out for a leak" - sure he said.
van up - cover off . . . . . .
and what do i see straight away . . . . GRRRR.
an oil leak.
well not a massive leak, but a drop, . . . . that over time will drip and seep, with additional drips to present itself as a oil leak.
"theres the leak" i pointed out!!!!
"hmm yeh" was the reply . . . "it was bone dry yesterday" - yeh right.
anyway, now things are starting to make sense, . . . the drip was from the sump seal corner edge, and not from the actual crankshaft seal.
so, whats happened is when they done the crankshaft seal job, they never refitted the sump properly as its sealed with a silicone like sealant . . and it was this seal that was leaking.
"well obviously it needs redoing". i said to him.
so off i went again, back home. . .
two days later i get a call - "its all done for you, please come get it as we need our new van back"
first thing i done was get under the ramp and check. . . . . . .
we can now clearly see the new sealant. . . . . lets hop they done it properly this time.
oh and also they just drained and re-filled my same oil - and didnt use new oil or filter.
before i left i asked them to double check the oil level etc. - which they said was correct.
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great its all done right - not so fast kiddo.
10mins into the drive home. . . . Bang OIL SENSOR Workshop !!!
WTH !!!
pull over check oil level - all good
check for a leak - no leak
carry on home carefully and get the van on my ramps to find this. . . . .
can you see it . . . . . . . ?
yep the they hadn't re-connected the OIL LEVEL/Quality sensor - causing the ECM to go into fault.
here it is now plugged back-in. - they had left it tucked up on the sub-frame.
so honestly you cant make this stuff up, and as I'm writing this i think its unbelievable, but it happened and I've got the pics to prove it.
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and guess what i emailed the dealer about this and asked for paperwork to cover what they had done. . . . for onwards warranty.
and the fact the van was sent out with the oil sensor.
what did i get back - Nothing,
no email, no phone call, no paperwork, nothing.
its like it never happened !! - and that's just how the garage wants it as they wont admit they done the job wrong in the first place.
lets just say that if i hadn't already lost faith in that van centre before - i definitely have now.
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so what happened?
you are going to love this. . . . .
so the van went in for a "Crank Main Seal" under warranty at van center #1 - but they never done it right
having lost faith in VC#1 for other reasons, we took the van to VC#2
VC#2 has the van months later and does the MOT and Service - and miss diagnoses a leaking crank seal(and quotes me £1k to do it)
telling VC#2 id had this done 3mths ago at VC#1 they told me to go back to them.
back at VC#1 they miss diagnosed the leak as a no leak.
highlighting the leak they agreed to redo the sump seal, as it wasn't done correct the 1st time
then failed to complete the job properly - leaving the oil sensor disconnected.
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like i said you cant make it up. . .
and i feel sorry for people that are not mechanicaly minded that just have to accept what mechanics and garages tell them as gospel.
luckily i have good under standing to know exactly whats involved and to call out poor service and work.
safe to say i will not be returning to either VC#1 or VC#2.
I've already had some bitd done at the new VC#3 which seemed to go ok. . .
but trust me - as soon as the ALL-IN cover for both vans runs out and VW wont offer me any extened warranty of any kind i will happily be taking my vans to a local-is VW indy that takes pride in there work and relies heavily on recomendation and referal.
VW Comercial should be ashamed of themsilves as the local dealers are just franchise companies that at the end of the day are there to make money - the end result is the dealers are just money making machines for themesilves and the quality of work and customer service sufferes.
sure VW send out a customer satisfaction link after the visit.
but the only true way to tackle these poor garages is to call VW CV UK and raise a claim - the UK center is VW themselves, and above the franchise dealer level, so all the little black marks go against the franchise KPI`s - its the fastes way to get stuff done.
so dont be worried, if you getting poor service from your local VW CV garage then call them out and report it VW CV customer services UK.
I've got them on speed dial these days. . . .
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Nightmare. Like you say, some poor folks will just accept what they're being told by VW and lose money.
Good dealership that one, we travelled to collect our 204 dsg kombi in oryx Pearl, from Staffordshire. When we got there the van was as described, but dpf light was on as it had been shunted around the workshop for a week or so.just had the MOT done at VW, under the ALL-IN package.
lost faith in the two local VW CV garages at Loughton & Dartford, so tried the next nearest out of London one.
VW CV Chelmsford.
well so far very impressed, we was onsite at 745am, booked in by 8am.
van was on the ramp by 815am
and we was on the way to work by 915am.
so far the plan to get a garage out of London seems to be paying off.
The Service advisor AMY was efficient and on point.
the waiting area was nice, free vend Tea, coffee machine, . . with TV for radio etc . .
plus CCTV screen showing the MOT ramp. - nice touch VWCV Chelmsford.
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van on the rollers. . . .
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and van on the Ramp. . .
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and we also got a included HEALTH CHECK. . .
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health check video . . . Cloud link.
New video by ESD Lee
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Cost Breakdown
Please review the items listed below and authorise work that you’d like carried out on your vehicle.
Condensed Report
- Visually Ok
- Advisory
- Urgent
- Not Checked
Identified Work Item Status Price Include Internal Warning Lamps - - Interior Lamps - - Horn - - Instruments - - Wipers and Washers - - Seatbelts - - Clutch - - Foot and Hand Brake Operation - - Other - - External Body Damage - - Trim - - Glass - - Mirrors - - External Lights - - Wiper Blades and Lock operation - - Other - - Under Bonnet Brake Fluid Condition - - Battery Condition - - Coolant Level / Anti-Freeze Strength - - Engine Oil Level - - Engine oil level full Power Steering - - Drive Belts - - Screenwash Level - - Other - - Brakes, Suspension and Bearings Visual Check of Brake Disc's - - Visual Check of Brake Hoses and Dampers - - Visual Check of Brake Pads - Front - - 20 percent Worn - Front Brake Pads Suspension - - Other - - Visual Check of Brake Pads Rear - - 20 percent Worn - Rear Brake Pads Underbody and Steering Steering - - Drive Shafts - - Hoses - - Oil Leaks - - Exhaust System - - Other - - Other Service Book - - Digital Service Booklet Locking Wheel Nut - - Not Fitted Brake Fluid Due - - Cambelt Due - - Other - - Tyres Front Right - - 7.5 MM Front Left - - 7.5 MM Rear Right - - 4.5 MM - Size Rear Left - - 4.5 MM - Size Spare - - 8.5 MM
Cost of Work Selected £0.00
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so far very happy.
and will be happy to take either van back for future works.
it was nice to be in a calm chilled environment and not the normal chaos of angry customers and heated discussions at 8am in the morning.
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Faith now temporarily restored in a dealership.
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They cleared and regen whilst sending us off to a great local pub, of which they foot the bill of x2 three course lunches and drinks
CXEB - High Oil usage?
whats going on here?
i normaly have to do a 1ltr oild topup between services . . . . and thats normal for me on my vans.
with service interval following the VW schedual upto 18K miles.
but as the milllage creaps up i move over to 10k miles / 12months.
and never had an issue with high oil usage.
but something here is tweaking my Spider Sense. . .
i keep a runnig excel spreadsheet of all my maint and stuff. . .
and im not liking what im seeing.
70K - full service, new oil
71K - Front main seal replaced again - but oil drained and reused by dealer.
73K - low oil orange light - 1ltr added. ( possibly lost some in the dealer drain/refill)
75K - Oil checked low (no light) - 1ltr added
77K - low oil orange light - 1ltr added.
xxK - lets see what happens next
this is not looking good.. . . its not leaking anywhere as the engine bay and underneath is dry as a bone.
so it must be burning it - and that's a worry.
I'm sill within the ALL-IN warranty for now. . . so need to keep a super close eye on oil usage,
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possible causes:
piston bores / valve stems - possible / not likely
Bi-Turbo bearings - possible and known issue - ends up clogging DPF. (regens seem normal, two per full tank @ 1/3 and 2/3rd tank)
inlet manifold leak - seen on here, but not sure how the oil gets in.
. oil cooler to water jacket - coolant header tank look normal
. head gasket, oil gallery to bore / warped head - compression test to check.
. other
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whats going on here?
i normaly have to do a 1ltr oild topup between services . . . . and thats normal for me on my vans.
with service interval following the VW schedual upto 18K miles.
but as the milllage creaps up i move over to 10k miles / 12months.
and never had an issue with high oil usage.
but something here is tweaking my Spider Sense. . .
i keep a runnig excel spreadsheet of all my maint and stuff. . .
and im not liking what im seeing.
70K - full service, new oil
71K - Front main seal replaced again - but oil drained and reused by dealer.
73K - low oil orange light - 1ltr added. ( possibly lost some in the dealer drain/refill)
75K - Oil checked low (no light) - 1ltr added
77K - low oil orange light - 1ltr added.
xxK - lets see what happens next
this is not looking good.. . . its not leaking anywhere as the engine bay and underneath is dry as a bone.
so it must be burning it - and that's a worry.
I'm sill within the ALL-IN warranty for now. . . so need to keep a super close eye on oil usage,
+++++++++++++++++++++++
possible causes:
piston bores / valve stems - possible / not likely
Bi-Turbo bearings - possible and known issue - ends up clogging DPF. (regens seem normal, two per full tank @ 1/3 and 2/3rd tank)
inlet manifold leak - seen on here, but not sure how the oil gets in.
. oil cooler to water jacket - coolant header tank look normal
. head gasket, oil gallery to bore / warped head - compression test to check.
. other
+++++++++++++++++++++++
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Edit:
CXEB - High Oil usage - story continues below
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Oh dear.
Could this be another 204 cxeb engine dead?.
Vw assist callout call a non-start issue this morning.
After noticing high oil use.
The tech has checked the spec and it states half a litre of oil per 1000 kilometers. That's 620 something miles in new money.
He's mentioned a TPI that covers excessive oil use in the cxeb 204 bi turbo engine.
Repeat the TPI says "long block required due to wear in the walls and pistons and piston rings plus replacement of the DPF and cat. But not to replace the bi turbo."
At first I was thinking quite turbo bearing failure calling causing the oil loss, that's according to this TPI it's the piston and balls of the block that's wearing.
Hopefully they all in extended warranty will be kind to us.
The tech thinks it's 12 to 15,000 in parts so probably a 20 grand job all-in.
Fingers crossed for me lads.
I'll update the TPI number when I get back because he wouldn't let me take a photo of it but he has given me verbally the TPI details Google searched it quickly but couldn't see anything so I might need your help to find the TPI information.
Paper leaves the non-start this morning is from low compression and probably dirty blocked injectors from The wire oil burning he's saying they need to take out a glow plug to get a boroscope in there to see if it's all chopped up with carbon deposits from the burning oil problem.
Or maybe he's got it completely wrong and it is the turbo failing and that's where the oil was going in which case I'm not too sure but a boriscope job seems to be the way forward.
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so im now thinking that the CXEB engines maybe prone to TWO possible high oil use problems,
1# one being the Bi-Turbo bearing failing - causing oil injection via the charge cooler. - the VW tech said that this can be witnessed with a borescope showing wet oil in the induction path and inlet manifold, and also wet in all four cylinders.
the repair is :
new Bi-Turbo,
new CAT,
new DPF,
new Lamda probe.
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2# the Bore/Piston wear, that the TPI covers (TPI - 2061290/6) - which the VW tech says can be witnessed with wet oil one or more cylinders, and not all four as id assumed, he said the chances were that one cylinder will be leaking oil, showing as wet, where the other will show dry, he also said that a compression test will show the weak cylinder, the wet oil and carbon deposit will also clog the injector head, which leads to a miss-fire on that cylinder. ( basicaly what i had)
the TPI states a guided fault finding, which calls for the oil to be drained and weighed. then replaced, then 500 odd miles to be driven, then the oil to be drained and weighed again.
if the engine shows that the oil usage is more that 0.5L per 1000km then its a fail and repair required.
the repair is :
new Long Block Engine ( Block, pistons, crank, head, cams etc )(but not accessories like EGR, Turbo etc)
new CAT,
new DPF,
new Lamda probe.
TPI - 2061290/6
CXEB excessive oil consumption . . over 0.5L per 1000km
+++++
Could this be another 204 cxeb engine dead?.
Vw assist callout call a non-start issue this morning.
After noticing high oil use.
The tech has checked the spec and it states half a litre of oil per 1000 kilometers. That's 620 something miles in new money.
He's mentioned a TPI that covers excessive oil use in the cxeb 204 bi turbo engine.
Repeat the TPI says "long block required due to wear in the walls and pistons and piston rings plus replacement of the DPF and cat. But not to replace the bi turbo."
At first I was thinking quite turbo bearing failure calling causing the oil loss, that's according to this TPI it's the piston and balls of the block that's wearing.
Hopefully they all in extended warranty will be kind to us.
The tech thinks it's 12 to 15,000 in parts so probably a 20 grand job all-in.
Fingers crossed for me lads.
I'll update the TPI number when I get back because he wouldn't let me take a photo of it but he has given me verbally the TPI details Google searched it quickly but couldn't see anything so I might need your help to find the TPI information.
Paper leaves the non-start this morning is from low compression and probably dirty blocked injectors from The wire oil burning he's saying they need to take out a glow plug to get a boroscope in there to see if it's all chopped up with carbon deposits from the burning oil problem.
Or maybe he's got it completely wrong and it is the turbo failing and that's where the oil was going in which case I'm not too sure but a boriscope job seems to be the way forward.
+++++
so im now thinking that the CXEB engines maybe prone to TWO possible high oil use problems,
1# one being the Bi-Turbo bearing failing - causing oil injection via the charge cooler. - the VW tech said that this can be witnessed with a borescope showing wet oil in the induction path and inlet manifold, and also wet in all four cylinders.
the repair is :
new Bi-Turbo,
new CAT,
new DPF,
new Lamda probe.
+++
2# the Bore/Piston wear, that the TPI covers (TPI - 2061290/6) - which the VW tech says can be witnessed with wet oil one or more cylinders, and not all four as id assumed, he said the chances were that one cylinder will be leaking oil, showing as wet, where the other will show dry, he also said that a compression test will show the weak cylinder, the wet oil and carbon deposit will also clog the injector head, which leads to a miss-fire on that cylinder. ( basicaly what i had)
the TPI states a guided fault finding, which calls for the oil to be drained and weighed. then replaced, then 500 odd miles to be driven, then the oil to be drained and weighed again.
if the engine shows that the oil usage is more that 0.5L per 1000km then its a fail and repair required.
the repair is :
new Long Block Engine ( Block, pistons, crank, head, cams etc )(but not accessories like EGR, Turbo etc)
new CAT,
new DPF,
new Lamda probe.
TPI - 2061290/6
CXEB excessive oil consumption . . over 0.5L per 1000km
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